He Has Closed The Eyes Of The Prophets And Covered The Heads Of The Seers-2

Stop–Take Some Time And Wonder At This Prophecy

Isaiah 29:9-11 (AMP)

“Stop and take some time and wonder [at this prophecy],
Blind yourselves and be blinded [at its fulfillment by your spiritual incompetence].
They are drunk, but not from wine;
They stagger, but not from strong drink.

For the Lord has poured over you a spirit of deep sleep.
He has closed your eyes, [you who are] the prophets;
And He has covered your heads, [you who are] the seers.

The entire vision [of all these things] will be to you like the words of a scroll that is sealed, which they give to one who can read, saying, “Read this, please,” he shall say, “I cannot, for it is sealed.

Then the book will be given to the one who cannot read, saying, “Read this, please.” And he will say, “I cannot read.”’

Write On A Tablet…That It May Serve In The Time To Come
Isaiah 30:8-13

Now, go, write it on a tablet before them, And inscribe it on a scroll,
So that it may serve in the time to come, As a witness [against them] forevermore.

For this is a rebellious people, lying sons, Sons who refuse to listen to The law and instruction of the Lord;

Who say to the seers, “You must not see visions from God”;
And to the prophets, “You must not prophesy to us what is right!
Speak to us pleasant things and smooth words,
Prophesy [deceitful] illusions [that we will enjoy].

“Get out of the [true] way, turn aside from the path [of God],
Stop bothering us with the Holy One of Israel.”

Therefore, the Holy One of Israel says this,

“Because you have refused and rejected this word [of Mine]
And have put your trust in oppression and guile, and have relied on them,

Therefore this wickedness [this sin, this injustice, this wrongdoing] will be to you
Like a crack [in a wall] about to fall,,A bulge in a high wall, Whose collapse comes suddenly in an instant.”

My beliefs will all be scrutinized by Scripture

A major challenging question I have posed to myself and now the Body of Christ, is, how much of what we believe, and focus our attention on, is based on ‘prophetic utterance,’ tho’t, and extra-Biblical prophetic revelation? I can no longer pursue, and focus my attention, heart, prayers, efforts, actions, tho’ts, words and faith on things derived from the above. My beliefs will all be scrutinized by Scripture, only confirmed by ‘the prophetic.’

‘Prophecy’ and ‘prophetic revelation’ have been slowly supplanting the Word of God, in all manner of ways. This, I have been addressing and endeavouring to bring to light, revealing the state the ‘prophetic’ is in at this time. We must get back to the Word of God as our foundation, or else drift indefinitely, into the delusion God warns of, for those ‘who love not the truth.’

Lawlessness, Disdain For Truth-Delusion Judgment

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. And because of this, God will send to them a working of delusion, for them to believe what is false, in order that all those not having believed the truth but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged. 2 Thess 2:9-12

Their root will be as rottenness, and their blossom go up like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord of hosts, and have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 5:20–24

 2 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21  Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight! 22  Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine,and valiant men in mixing strong drink, 23  who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of his right!  24 Therefore,  as the tongue of fire devours the stubble, and as dry grass sinks down in the flame, so their root will be as rottenness, and their blossom go up like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord of hosts, and have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Blindness and spiritual stupor has fallen upon the ‘prophetic movement partly inherited, I believe, from it’s historical roots. William Branham, George Hawtin-Latter Rain *see here https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2020/01/28/when-prophecy-and-prophets-turned-prognosticators/

Why The Far Reaching Influence Of This Movement

Over the years, the increased focus on prophecy, and spiritual exp.’s to the detriment of Scripture, carrying the baggage of erroneous doctrines, such as ‘Latter Rain,’ and ‘manifest sons of God,’ and anti-denominationalism, and a type of lawlessness, which created elitist, isolationism, carrying extremism as well, along with other aberrancies, these all created a seed bed, fertile for further demonic intrusion. The early ‘manifest sons of God,’ saw extreme manifestations like dog barking and bizarre imitating actions. The ‘Latter Rain’ movement, birthed in Northbattleford Sask. thro William Branham and others in 1947, (rejected by the Assemblies of God), carrying all of the above spiritual aberrancies, continued into the ‘Healing Revival’ of the 50’s, the ‘charismatic movement of the 60’s, into Vineyard thro’ John Wimber, and Lonnie Frisbee in the 70’s, onward into Fuller Theological Seminary, thro’ Wimber and Peter Wagner in the 80’s!

*See Loni Frisbeehttps://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2019/11/26/lonnie-frisbee-vineyard-source/ *This Loni Frisbee article clearly presents the shocking possibilities of demonic ties throvarious stages of the ‘charismatic movement.‘* Beware of a second false jesus movement*

This is the ‘heritage’ of the ‘prophetic movement!’ It was not all bad, as some of the movement congealed in ‘Elim’ assemblies, on the east coast of the U.S.A., with less ‘manifest sons of God’ and ‘Latter Rain’ error. Today, thro’ the apostolic emphasis that slowly evolved, a greater, intensified movement, combining ‘prophetic and ‘apostolic’ has been established, greatly assisted by Peter Wagner’s creation of an apostolic network, that is commonly identified as the NAR, (New Apostolic Reformation), altho’ many play ‘dumb’ regarding it’s official existence. Peter’s organization was ICA. (International Coalition of Apostles) *After the 2008 ‘Lakeland Revival’ fiaso with Todd Bentley, many members of Peter’s ICA separated from the organization.

This produced the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement’ present today. ‘Charismatic’ can be tagged on the identifying title as well, since the ‘prophetic’ movement assimilated itself into the ‘charismatic’ movement, that arose in the 60’s, gaining greater momentum in the early 80,’ and the ‘apostolic’ in the 90’s.

From this brief history, I trust the identifying term, ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic/ charismatic can been seen as valid, and the concern overall as well, of the far reaching influence of this movement, with it’s ‘spider web’ like, demonic interconnectedness, the transference of demonic spirits, transpiring thro’ the laying on of hands, embracing false doctrine, even following demonically afflicted leadership, whether physically present, visiting, or by distance agreement. Any genuine ‘prophetic ministry,’ because of this far reaching influence, must needs be distanced from the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophet movement,’ in order to remain free from the deluding, demonic influences carried by it from it’s inception in 1947.

The Angel the spirit of Truth Appears To Bob Jones


*Here’s an ex. of transference of spirits thro’ written material, read, believed, rec’d.* (Little known facts connecting possibly, Charles Finney, William Branham, Roland Buck and Bob Jones,-then anyone rec’ing Bob Jones!) *This is a demonically inspired deceiving account, revealing a demonic reality!


By ‘Prophet’ Bob Jones

Isaiah 11:1,2(Amp), Exodus 28:36

On March 10, 1998 Bob Jones told Patrick about his angelic visitation of the angel the spirit of truth

After Bob read William Branham’s book “A Man Sent From God” and the account of the visitation of the Angel of the Lord to William Branham on May 7, 1946. Bob then told Patrick about when the angel of truth appeared to him on Valentines Day 1993 the angel said to him, “I was with William Branham and I was with Roland Buck

Bob then told Patrick that the angel of truth told him about a earthquake that was about to happen in Minnesota and the Pastor didn’t believe him and then Bob said the earthquake happened and the epicenter was under that building

Bob explained to Patrick that the angel was with William Branham and then at the end of his life William Branham went off and the Lord took him home to Heaven. then the angel of truth appeared to Roland Buck and then the people began to worship the angels and the Lord took Roland Buck home to Heaven. Next the angel of truth appeared to Bob. 

Then the next day on March 11, 1998 the angel the spirit of truth appeared again to Bob that morning. 

Bob Jones said: “And this was a big angel (As tall as the Empire State Building) I mean big, there’s only two angels in the United States now, one is in San Diego holding the fault together, when he turns loose they’ll be the most Awesome earthquake you’ve ever seen in California, this Archangel is out there preventing it now, the other one is here today, and the angel that is here is called the spirit of truth, he’s here in Isaiah 11:2, where the truth of the Lord is there is liberty, do you all feel that Wind blowing on your forehead, you know where your forehead is, is where all the action is, Exodus 28:36 And you shall make a golden miter and put it upon there forehead between there eyes, and it shall say, HOLINESS TO THE LORD.

The angel also revealed to Bob the facts of the Charles G. Finney Revival of 1830,31.
95 % of the people in the City of Rochester, New York were saved.
Every devil was thrown down all four levels according to Ephesians chapter 6:12.
and there was less sin in the City of Rochester, New York than any City in the earth at that time. This was the Holiest City in the earth at that time

The angel of truth told Bob that we were getting back the Revival because it was our inheritance and because we helped the slaves in the Underground Railroad.

Bob told Patrick that these angels would come back in God’s timing to bring to pass what they spoke, this happened. On February 14, 2014 Valentines Day Bob Jones died and went to Heaven. that night in our Church meeting the angel of truth came back to bring to pass what he spoke to Bob, the angel of truth manifested as he had when he was with Bob in the meeting on March 11, 1998 he manifested as wind and blew across the people in the meeting. It was 21 years after the angel the spirit of truth appeared to Bob on Valentines Day 1993 that Bob went home to Heaven on Valentines Day 2014. God moves in cycles. *Daryl here-it wasn‘t God moving!

God revealed to us that the angel the spirit of truth is a generational angel he was with the Healing Revival generation, then he was with Roland Buck’s generation, then he was with Bob’s generation, and now he is with our generation as the Charles G. Finney Revival is being restored.

Examples of deluding activities, with the deluded in this location, that the supposed ‘wind of truth/ change/revival,’ visited, 1st exp. by Charles Finney, then William Branham, Roland Buck, Bob Jones, then this ‘church,’ and others; Todd Bentley, David Hertzog, Jeff Jansen, Darren Canning, Charlie Shamp


*HERE’S AN EX. OF TRANSFERENCE OF SPIRITS THRO’ WRITTEN MATERIAL, read, believed, rec’d.* (Little known facts connecting possibly, Charles Finney, William Branham, Roland Buck and Bob Jones,-then anyone rec’ing Bob Jones!) *This is a demonically inspired deceiving account, revealing a demonic reality!

Bob explained to Patrick that the angel was with William Branham and then at the end of his life William Branham went off and the Lord took him home to Heaven. then the angel of truth appeared to Roland Buck and then the people began to worship the angels and the Lord took Roland Buck home to Heaven. Next the angel of truth appeared to Bob. 

Charles Finney, John G. Lake, William Branham, Roland Buck, Bob Jones, Todd Bentley –

Who’s next?

Examples of deluding activities, with the deluded in this location, that the supposed ‘wind of truth/ change/revival,’ visited, 1st exp. by Charles Finney, then William Branham, Roland Buck, Bob Jones, then this ‘church,’ and others; Todd Bentley, David Hertzog, Jeff Jansen, Darren Canning, Charlie Shamp

https://www.sogchurch.net/social-media–live-stream.html Video clips of different ones @ ‘Song Church,‘ talking of re-digging the wells of Charles Finney ‘revival.’ *See Charlie Shamp*

Todd Bentley’s ‘Healing Angel’ With Branham & Lake


Bentley says: “Then on December 5, 2000 an angel appeared to me and said he was the angel that appeared to me in April 1998 (before the Lord Jesus Christ came to me in the kitchen). He said that the day he came to me in 1998 was the day he was assigned to me. This time (on December 5th) the angel said, “I am the angel that has been assigned to your life. I am a healing angel . . . You are going to take miracles, signs and wonders around the world.”

I was with William Branham” (the Voice of Healing movement), the angel said. He told me about William Branham’s angelic encounter in 1946. Two years later the Voice of Healing was born there was a revival.”

 “The angel appeared to me again, February, 2001 in Albany, Oregon. He said, “I am the angel that was a part of the Healing Rooms . . . John G. Lake.” Next, my spirit was quickened when I read about the angel in the Bible—John Chapter 5. The word says there was a pool called Bethesda (v. 2) and multitudes of lame, blind, sick would come there and at a certain time, an angel of the Lord would come down and stir the waters. Whoever could get into the pool first would be healed.

Todd Bentley. I thought, Lord, they are angels, just like the one I saw. “That is right!” He said. “Just like the one that was with Branham, just like the one that was with John Lake, just like the angel that was in Spokane . 

Do Not Look To The Prophets Their Eyes Are Closed, Nor To The Seers Their Heads Are Covered!

‘Apostolic/prophetic’ Day of Infamy #2

One thing this present crisis has done, is expose the corrupted ‘prophetic movement once again, as the ‘day of charismatic infamy’ did in June 2008, on the platform of ‘Carpenter’s Home Church’ in Lakeland, Florida, as leaders of the’prophetic movement’ gathered around Todd Bentley at Peter Wagner’s behest, and prophesied ‘world shaking’ words over him, even as he secretly planned to divorce his wife, which was announced to the christian world, only days later!

Yes this is ‘Day Of Infamy’#2!

‘Prophetic voices’ have been rebuking, binding, banishing, decreeing an end to the ‘corona virus,’ ‘releasing’ ‘prophetic words,’ dreams and visions, expressing, revealing, practicing, ‘divine revelations’ of triumphant, overcoming ‘spiritual authority,’ that was suppose to rid the earth of this ‘curse,’ ‘prophetic foresight’ seeing the virus coming to an end. Gatherings of fasting believers, the ‘prophets’ said, would drive this thing out!

Riding on the tail of this victory, would be the fulfillment of Bob Jones ‘Superbowl’ ‘stadium revivals. Shouts were heard of, Stadium revival is here! The ‘wealth of the wicked,’ is coming into the hands the church triumphant. When ‘pandemic’ was applied to the virus, the ‘prophets’ then amped-up the warfare, contributing the intensified crisis to the enemy’s attempts to thwart the ‘revival.’ John G. Lake’s ‘notorious claim’ of bubonic plague dying in his hand, was and is, being posted continually, dream encounters of Lake reported.

The present reality as we all know, is anything but stadium revival gatherings, but the exact opposite. Numerous ‘prophets’ gathered early in this new year to ‘release’ their ‘prophetic insights’ for 2020. Much has been made of 2020 because of the ‘seemingly significant’ numbers, yet there was no insight into what was about to come upon the earth! Summaries of ‘supposed insights’ are presented below, affirming the declaration, and admonition, Do Not Look To The Prophets, Their Eyes Are Closed, Nor To The Seers, Their Heads Are Covered!

I have come to the conclusion that the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic/charismatic movement, is not a movement from God, the apostles and prophets are not the messengers of God, “because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. And because of this, God will send to them a working of delusion, for them to believe what is false, in order that all those not having believed the truth but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged. 2 Thess 2:9-12

I clarify ‘mainstream,’ because, I believe there is the genuine, but it cannot identify with the ‘mainstream’ prominent ‘apostolic/prophetic’ movement, that has been rooted in the ‘Latter Rain’ history, nor it’s proponents, nor as well, any ‘charismatic,’ even evangelical practice of such aberrancies as ‘contemplative, centering prayer, or various other aberrancies, errors, and heresies, which are beginning to make their way into evanglicalism in general.

Their Eyes Are Closed, Their Heads Are Covered!

Together, in the victory Christ has already won on the Cross, we will speak to this coronavirus, saying, “Be thou removed!” As we do, let’s believe together that this pandemic will abate, stadiums will be filled, elections shifted, and 2020 will go down in history – not as the year where the nations collapsed – but as the year of historic advance of evangelism and missions worldwide!”Lou Engle on March 18, 2020



This article is being written on March 26, 2020, and the 3-day fast did not stop the worldwide virus pandemic, but Lou Engle will continue to revered as a top leader of the New Apostolic Reformation.

“I wholeheartedly revere the voice of Lou Engle and his ministry.”— Steve Shultz, Elijah List


Justin Peters summarizes 20 ‘prophets”insights’ for 2020, with Sid Roth early in new year.

Do not look to, listen to, adhere to, the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic/ charismatic movement, their eyes are closed, their heads are covered!

J. Johnson's March 'Prophetics'-2

Discerning ‘Prophetic‘ Dreams – Content And Source

I used to follow every ‘prophetic word’ that came down the ‘prophetic pipe line,’ esp. at the start of a new year. Dreams were esp. appealing to me, because I figured they were more reliable even than prophecy, since the dreamer really had no to control over what they dreamt. I’ve since come to realize that is absolutely incorrect! In my last blog responding to Jeremiah Johnson’s ‘3 part prophetic visitation’ dream, in which he saw Charlie Shamp, Jeff Jansen, and Todd White, I explained how *dreams containing people presented in a positive light, who are embracing aberrancy and serious error, are a clear indication that the dreams are not sourced in God, for the Lord will not use such aberrancy and error to represent Himself or communicate His tho’ts

The scenario for such dreams as mentioned above, would be that the dreamer validates the people in the dreams believing them trustworthy godly examples. So their appearance reveals the dreamers spiritual position, that of embracing the error, the aberrancy, being in agreement with the position of the subjects in the dream. *I will continue to follow this premise as we further examine Jeremiah’s dreams and ‘prophesies.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=866033793902406&set=pcb.866036207235498&type=3&theater p.1 https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=866033970569055&set=pcb.866036207235498&type=3&theater p.2

Saying the right words, but tied to the web

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Jeremiah Johnson
“The prophecy of Bob Jones had come to pass with the Chief’s victory. It was indeed a definite sign that revival and awakening was here and time to celebrate!

Researching Roots To Understand Infiltrating Errors

I began to grasp more fully the extent of corruption and deception in the ‘apostolic/prophetic’ movement as I research it’s roots and sought to understand how such error could transpire. At the time Jeremiah Johnson was and still is, addressing errors in the ‘prophetic,‘ so I was hopeful of his influence for good, in speaking into, and speaking out about the serious issues in the ‘prophetic movement.’ The deeper my study and research went, the deeper I saw the deceptive, corrupted roots growing, sustaining pretty much, in general, the ‘mainstream prophetic movement.’

There are various ones addressing some of the ‘prophetic’ issues on various levels, such as Jeremiah. I have conversed and communicate with different ones, regarding the ‘prophetic.’ Many are stabbing at more surface issues, not recognizing or understanding the rotted, diseased roots, that have been feeding the ‘prophetic tree’ for many years. With my conviction of the depth of degeneration in the foundation of the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic,’ those identified with this ‘mainstream’ movment, I consider unreliable, the ‘prophetic’ poisoned by false doctrine, aberrancy and demonic influence. I have written numerous blogs on my observations and the research done on individuals, ministries, movements, doctrines, practices, beliefs, exp.’s, encounters, that has convinced me that *a ‘prophetic spiritual detox’ is required by any who desire to step away from the ‘mainstream apostolic/ prophetic,’ to encounter the genuine from the Lord.

demonic spiritual spider web network, operating in the ‘mainstream prophetic*

Until one realizes the degree of deception in the ‘prophetic,’ understanding the ‘demonic spiritual spider web network,’ operating in the ‘mainstream prophetic,’ they will not understand the necessity of a ‘spiritual detox.’ I have come to realize, unfortunately, that Jeremiah and many others, in their well meaning, noble endeavours to bring correction to the’prophetic’ have continued to remain tied to the ‘demonic spider web,’ dealing with outward issues of a soulish and carnal nature, missing the ‘spiritual undertones’ that are the glue holding everything together, part of that web consisting of the demonic ‘manifest sons of god’ heresy.

Past prominent figures that functioned in this invisible, yet effective’spider web,’ are emulated, honoured, and endorsed by the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic’ today. This is always a clear indication to me of that deceptive connection. So here we have Jeremiah acknowledging Bob Jones ‘football prophecy’ as a sure sign of existing revival. A huge red flag, esp. when these past aberrant figures appear in peoples dreams. This is where the research has enabled me to sift out the aberrant ones, and those in whose dreams they appear, or are referenced to positively.


Jeremiah’s article here affirms, “The prophecy of Bob Jones had come to pass with the Chief’s victory. It was indeed a definite sign that revival and awakening was here and time to celebrate!

For those in agreement that the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic’ movement, as I said, is unreliable due to erroneous, demonic, infiltrating influences, and a ‘end time global awakening is not validated by Scripture, but is propagated in ‘latter rain’ heresy, then Jeremiah’s affirmation of Bob Jones’ prophecy reveals two things, 1) his agreement with the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic’ a) which Bob represents and b) the ‘football prophecy’ agreement with the ‘mainstream prophetic.’ 2) His agreement with the end time global awakening itself. His affirmation above, to me, indicates ties to the corrupted ‘prophetic,’ even tho’ he seems to be saying the right words, in addressing issues in the ‘prophetic.’

Jeremiah’s statement, ‘Our end time charismatic revival theology is being exposed,” may seem to indicate a positive correction to the ‘charismatic movement, yet what he is referring to is the ‘charismatic’ idea that the ‘end time revival,'(that he says is here), overtakes society, diminishing evil. He says, “One charismatic leader specifically wrote to me and said, “Revival is here. Stadiums will be filled. I will now only believe encouraging prophetic words that are positive about the days ahead.This is the theology he says is being exposed by the Corona virus crisis.

He had a dream shortly after the Chiefs one the Superbowl, mentioned above, in which he “saw great darkness and chaos covering the earth. A spirit of fear gripped the masses, as natural disasters and disease spread like wild fire. It was very apocalyptic in nature. Wallstreet was plummeting. People were stockpiling food and streets were empty in some places.”

In the dream he visited different churches and saw “Believers…absolutely on fire for God. The manifest glory of the Lord was so tangible it would knock me off my feet as I walked in…There was a realm of faith, hope and the miraculous at work in their midst…I realized that they were living and operating in a totally different dimension than the world around them was because they simply did not fear death.”

He goes on to say, when awakening he looked in his journal and saw where he’d written about Pentecost followed by severe persecution of the church under Nero in 64 A.D., then the 1st ‘Great Awakening’ followed by the Revolutionary War, then the 2nd ‘Great Awakening,’ followed by the ‘Civil War’, then the ‘Asuza St. Revival’ followed by W.W.1, then the ‘Voice Of Healing Revival’ during/ followed by W. W. 2.

Jeremiah: Suddenly I began to ask myself…does spiritual awakening thro.’out history generally precede and or coincide with chaos, war and disaster?”Historically and biblically, the awakening could very well just be preparing then earth for very turbulent years ahead. If our end time revival theology is only based on receiving encouraging and positive words for the days ahead, then the corona virus is seriously exposing Christians, esp. charismatic ones. It is also exposing many of our ‘prophets’ who seem to only carry an unbiblical theology that the worlds is just going to get better and better.

When Jeremiah witnesses the current virus ‘crisis,’ it convinces him that ‘revival’ is here, affirming the fulfillment of Bob’s football ‘prophecy’, indicating the continued ‘pattern’ of difficult times, following ‘awakening.’ This causes him to realize that the faulty Charismatic end time theology of ‘only glory days’, is being exposed.

I refer back here, to the premise of aberrant, erroneous representatives of the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement’, being used to represent the Lord and communicate His tho’ts.

Having thoroughly researched Bob Jones life and ministry, I am fully persuaded of his life long serious aberrancy and error, so much so that, any and everything concerning him I would call into question. This is where the examining of things would begin, where he or dreams, apparitions of him, would be involved. I post 2 blog sites here of research, one on Bob’s spurious history and one on ‘football omenolgy. Yes, associations,- in person, in dreams, apparitions (encounters with the likeness of), emulating certain persons, affirming them, (whether alive or dead), their aberrancy and error will also be attributed to those who give them recognition while remaining mute regarding their serious error. I maintain this premise and conviction as foundational to all evaluation done.

Another ex. is the esteem given to William Branham by the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement.’ Research has unequivocally revealed a demonically influenced life, that is touted by some, as ‘the greatest prophet’ perhaps since New Test. times. This is shocking and absolutely pervasive, thro’out the ‘prophetic movement,’ revealing the level of deception and total lack of discernment thro’out the movement. Once we have a foundation of facts and evidence, this can be effectively used in examining, scrutinizing spiritual concerns.

Bob Jones – https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2020/02/07/bob-jones-a-spurious-history/

Football Omenolgy – https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2020/02/07/bob-jones-a-spurious-history/

My summary here would be, based on the premises presented, that Jeremiah, tho’ seemingly saying the right words to a degree, is definitely tied to the web, that connects and unifies the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement.’ His agreements, associations, affirmations, identify him with the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement!’

As far as Jeremiah’s question goes, “Does spiritual awakening thro.’out history generally precede and or coincide with chaos, war and disaster?Historically and biblically, the awakening…preparing the earth for very turbulent years ahead?” I don’t know, but I do know that, aberrant associations will not be used to represent God or communicate His tho’ts, at least not in my books!

Saying All Of The Right Words!

Prophetic Visitation By Jeremiah Johnson Evaluated

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A post from Jeremiah Johnson has been circulating this month on face book, (March 2020) detailing a dream he had recently, in which, three prominent ‘prophetic evangelist’ figures where highlighted to him, being described as having, in Jeremiah’s words; an unusual anointing for healing and deliverance. I saw Charlie Shamp, Jeff Jansen, and Todd White becoming consumed with the fiery zeal of Yahweh. “There shall be demonstrations” says the Lord. “For in these days great miracles shall be broadcast all over the news. The spirit and power of Elijah shall rest upon these men, and many many others.” Suddenly I began to peer into the cloud of witnesses over these three men and who specifically was assigned to pray for them was John G. Lake (faith), Katherine Kuhlman (hope), and Bob Jones (love).” https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=866033800569072&set=pcb.866036207235498&type=3&theater – p.1 https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpfbid=866033917235727&set=pcb.866036207235498&type=3&theater – p.2

Association with others of Aberrancy is a ‘Red Flag!’

The main reason I was alerted to concern, with this dream, is because of the appearing of Charlie Shamp, Jeff Jansen, and Todd White, as well, John G. Lake, Kathryn Kuhlman, and Bob Jones. Thro’ the research I have been doing the past year, I’ve observed many facts about these persons who appeared in Jeremiah’s dream, and will present these facts here. If evidence concludes serious error, then the dream itself must be acknowledged as serious error as well. Once serious error is factually determined in a person, their positive representative appearance in a dream, is clearly indicating the dream is not from God, for God would not validate error such as is seen here.

“Research Is The New Discernment!”

Charlie Shamp

Kirby de Lanerolle
Kirby De Lanerolle says “we are in the process of evolution into BEING GOD HIMSELF”

Charlie aligns ministerially with, demonstrating agreement with Kirby de Lanerolle

“maybe I’ll hit 200 (years), 300,400 (years)..because of what he did (referring to Kobus in this context) we are in a process of evolution.Kirby de Lanerolle

Again, I take no pleasure in exposing the errors of others, only providing facts that enable others to make informed decisions, for their best interest. Charlie aligns ministerially with, demonstrating agreement with Kirby de Lanerolle, who even Charisma Magazine did an article on, warning of his serious aberrancies, putting him clearly in the category of a ‘false prophet,‘ which I confidently, yet with serious trepidation acknowledge publicly, having not done so with anyone else yet, to date! https://www.charismanews.com/politics/opinion/77600-beware-of-the-latest-new-age-deception

I present a few web sites disclosing the relationship Charlie Shamp has with Kirby de Lanerolle, which cannot be dismissed as irrelevant, insignificant knit picking. Even in our social, law enforcement structure, known associates of criminal figures are investigated on a regular basis. Those caught in the presence of others committing crimes, are many times charged with ‘aiding and abetting’ in the crime, or ‘accessory to a crime.’ We cannot underestimate associations in determining and discerning the spiritual position of others. A serious lack of discernment can be indicated even in those who even genuinely had no knowledge of serious error or aberrancy in associates. When awareness is clearly observed, the association with others embracing such aberrancy is a ‘red flag’ to be seriously considered and addressed.



Further concerns with Charlie Shamp Mystical, contemplative prayer: https://www.amazon.com/Mystical-Prayer-Charlie-Shamp/dp/1717434282

Close association with Patrica King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfugtMuY4rs Those with no issues with Patrica may not have any issues with Charlie and his friends either.

Revival stadium rhetoric: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQ9qi66jQ0 Those with no issues with revival stadium rhetoric, may not have any serious issues with Charlie.

Charlie’s Failed prophesies: https://heterodoxresearchinitiative.wordpress.com/tag/charlie-shamp-false-prophet/  

Charlie and Jeremiah prophesying opposing words about North and South Korea! https://heterodoxresearchinitiative.wordpress.com/2018/06/03/whos-correct-about-north-korea-prophet-charlie-shamp-or-prophet-jeremiah-johnson/

Spurious, confusing words from Charlie: https://spiritfuel.me/tell-my-people-to-watch-for-the-signs-a-word-by-prophet-charlie-shamp/

Charlie doesn’t believe God judges the earth today, currently. https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/71776187796827859/

Jeremiah is all about judgement and cleansing!

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Have you ordered and been diving into the new release of “Judgment on the House of God”? Now more than ever, we need this word in the body of Christ!” 

Strange, failed ‘prophetic words:’ https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/charlie-shamp-pete-rose-will-enter-the-hall-of-fame-as-a-sign-of-christs-imminent-return/  Highly unlikely it will happen! https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2020/02/05/pete-rose-mlb-hall-of-fame-banned/4666806002/

Jeff Jansen

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Jeff Jansen & Charlie Shamp: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/living-supernatural-aug-16-18-jeff-jansen-robby-dawkins-charlie-shamp-tickets-64568523191

IHOP Joel’s Army Heresy -Bob Jones & Jeff Jansen: http://www.shoutsofjoyministries.com/bob-jones-dies/

Although their parents will reign over them and be the leaders of the last-day church, their children will possess the Spirit without measure. For they are the best of all the generations that have ever been upon the face of the earth. And the best of all generations are those elected seeds that will glorify Christ in the last days.”~Bob Jones

“That’s the purpose so that Jesus in the last days has the seeds that will glorify Him above any generation that has ever been upon the face of the earth. They will move into things of the super­natural that no one has ever moved in before. Every miracle, sign and wonder that has ever been in the Bible, they’ll move in it consistently. They’ll move in the power that Christ did. Every sign and wonder that’s ever been will be many times in the last days. They themselves; will be that generation that’s raised up to put death itself underneath their feet and to glorify Christ in every way.” ~Bob Jones

Spurious beliefs and stories: They had told me that death itself was going to be overcome and that even sleep they wouldn’t need.  They also said that it was possible to levitate, move through walls, and transport into different places, and shortly after that Jeff Jansen began to tell people and people began to inflate a testimony that he was in two places at once.

Jeff called me the morning after this one lady said that she thought she saw Jeff at a conference when in fact he was at home that night with a few friends and his wife.  What actually frightened me was that the story began to exponentiate from people who were there.  It just kept growing and growing until this huge story developed and books and articles and CD’s were made.  I know that I have a weird life but how many times has someone said they thought they have seen you some where that you weren’t? The story was easily understood to be that very mistake at first but as people joined in it became a frenzy.

Kat Kerr & Jeff Jansen Association: https://www.revealingheaven.com/event/may-27-june-5-2020-greek-isles-cruise-kat-kerr-heavens-paths-and-portals-2/ https://www.revealingheaven.com/event/kat-kerr-jeff-jansen-august-9-10-2019/

Kat Kerr Krazinesshttps://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2020/02/15/kat-kerrs-heaven/

“Almighty God the father is a huge Caucasian man with a neat mustache on whom lap she sits while eating ice cream. -Jesus is a tattooed biker with his own brand new Harley Davison motor bike -Almighty God and Jesus regularly play golf up there -John Wayne is in heaven still making cow boy movies,”

Jeff Jansen Teaches the Kenotic Christ Heresy: https://isnotsatire.wordpress.com/2018/02/26/apostle-jeff-jansen-teaches-the-kenotic-christ-heresy/

Jansen, Van Rensburg, De Lanerolle Connection

Jeff ‘prophesies’ over Van Rensburg family -13 Nov 2015

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Kobus Rensburg was Kirby de Lanerolle’s mentor. Kirby De Lanerolle says “we are in the process of evolution into BEING GOD HIMSELF” watch ‘Invisible One’ Part 1 video from 12min 10 sec to 13min:11sec where Kirby speaks about Immortality on earth and pushing beyond age barriers “maybe I’ll hit 200 (years), 300,400 (years)..because of what he did (referring to Kobus in this context) we are in a process of evolution. I believe in evolution ..we are in the process of evolution into BEING GOD HIMSELF” .watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-DeJVoSbMs  https://www.facebook.com/graceandtruthcoalition/posts/kirby-de-lanerolle-says-we-are-in-the-process-of-evolution-into-being-god-himsel/1611063039139889/


Kobus van Rensburg - Immortal Dead Passed away
Kobus: ‘Or as Romans 2:7 says, we must seek immortality. Now we are not made to die, that’s right. Everybody fights death. We are not made to die.

https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2013/12/21/kobus-van-rensburg-immortal-dead/ Kobus Van Rensburg: ‘The immortal‘ dies of cancer. https://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/05/06/kobus-van-rensburg-self-anointed-prophet/

Jeff Jansen Was SO Hungry For God That Jesus Came Into His Room and Wrote This! http://www.piratechristian.com/museum-of-idolatry/2018/1/jeff-jansen-was-so-hungry-for-god-that-jesus-came-into-his-room-and-did-thisJan 23, 2018

“Jeff provides us with valuable tools on having a renewed mind and how our thanksgiving and high praise attract the realm of Glory. This book will challenge you to go after greater levels of supernatural experiences and a greater infilling of the Holy Spirit.” – Bill Johnson, Bethel Church, Redding, CA Senior Pastor

J.J.-mainstream ‘apostolic/prophetic’ by association, even tho’ ‘he is saying all the right words!

Charlie Shamp, Jeff Jansen, and Todd White are all integrally involved and connected to what I refer to as the ‘mainstream ‘apostolic/prophetic’ movement, and by association, Jeremiah Johnson apparently is as well, even tho’ ‘he is saying all the right words, addressing many issues in the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement!

MORE RED FLAGS John G. Lake, Kathryn Kuhlman, and Bob Jones guest appearance in Jeremiah’s dream, as ‘cloud of witnesses’ intercessors respectively for Shamp, Jansen, and White, is also a ‘red flag.‘ My research on them below reveals many troubling facts, and as part of the ‘cloud of intercessory witnesses,’ a highly questionable speculation as well!

John G. Lake https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2019/12/27/john-g-lake-formativeyears-1870-1908-construed-biography/

Kathryn Kuhlman https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2019/12/13/kathryn-kuhlman-turning-points-in-a-christian-life/

Bob Jones https://scribalwell.wordpress.com/2020/02/07/bob-jones-a-spurious-history/

Making these observations from just this one dream of Jeremiah Johnson’s, enables one to evaluate the dream and in the process, Jeremiah as well. Associations are telling, indicative, in dreams very much so! Other disconcerting associations of Jeremiah’s are Patricia King, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner (until recently, distancing only because of Todd Bentley Issues), Cory Russell, head of IHOP prayer for 18 years, until recently. I do this, because those who have concerns with the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement,’ will have concerns with any closely associated, esp. those with serious erroneous aberrancies, and this is the case with Jeremiah Johnson’s, associations, even tho’ he seems to be saying all the right words!

do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How do these..serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?Deut. 12:30

“How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!” Psalm 1:1

He who walks with wise men will be wise, But the companion of fools will suffer harm.Prov.13:20

Leave the presence of a fool, Or you will not discern words of knowledge.”Prov. 14:7

“Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them.” Rom. 16:17

“keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.2 Thess.3:6

“Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others; keep yourself free from sin.” 1 Tim. 5:22

“‘I know your deeds and your toil and perseverance, and that you cannot tolerate evil men, and you put to the test those who call themselves apostles, and they are not, and you found them to be false;” Rev. 2:2

I will address more of the dream and further posts of Jeremiah’s from March 2020 in part 2.

I will address the dream and further posts of Jeremiah’s from March 2020 in part 2, mentioned below

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Jeremiah Johnson MinistriesMarch 21 at 9:21 AM · 

Dear Saints and Leaders, Many of you have requested a detailed report and the official release date of all the prophetic insights, dreams, and visions that I have given concerning the CORONA VIRUS that are now circulating the globe. Please refer to this seven page document per your requests. Have a great weekend and let’s continue to pray! 🙏🔥🙏🔥

I will address more of the dream and further posts of Jeremiah’s from March 2020 in part 2

Mounting Evidence Mainstream ‘Apostolic/Prophetic Movement’- Is Apostate Persecuting Church

“Every plant that My Heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up.”

I have spoken these things to you that you might not fall away…an hour is coming that everyone having killed you will think it is to offer a service to God.” Jn.16:1-2


The Removal Of The Final “Mountain” Of Religion

According to Johnny Enlow’s The Seven Mountain Prophecy: Unveiling the Coming Elijah Revolution, the final “mountain,” and the most difficult to take over, will be the mountain of religion.  Why?  Because the whole world will essentially be “converted” in the upcoming revival so everyone will appear to be “Christian.”  First he defines the “holy people” of Daniel 12:7 as religious, “left-brained” Christians (that’s you and me, in case you were wondering) and describes how their power will be “completely shattered… [meaning] a complete dismantling and pulverizing of the religious spirit’s operations… is coming” [pg.134-135].

     “Our last religious enemy will be more difficult to discern: that which has come onto the mountain of religion calling itself Christian. Just as Jesus faced the greatest persecution from the very ones who were supposedly looking for the Messiah, so too will the advancing church face its greatest challenge from those who profess Jesus. These will be the final “holy people” to be completely shattered, which means ‘shatter, break, dash, beat in pieces, pulverize’…they will not be our enemies, but we will be their enemies….”

     “Left-brained Christianity will be the last great religious enemy that the church of Jesus Christ will have to face… The reason this form of Christianity will be such a difficult enemy is that, for a season, it will be mixed in with the advancing true church. A time is coming when it will seem as if the whole world is converting or about to convert. No other major religion will be left to knock off the mountain. At this time, the religious spirit will again reinvent himself and team up with the prince of Greece. All those believers who have not been freed from rationalism will come under its power. They will attempt to use Christianity’s newfound power to advance their version of Christianity with reason and sophistication. This last Anti-Christ will look good, but will be in its ultimate disguise – a true wolf in sheep’s clothing. I believe this is the fourth beast horn from Daniel 7:20 – ‘that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.’ The prince of Greece always comes with pompous words…”

     “This most heavily disguised Antichrist will prevail for a season against the saints who have just experienced a tremendous world harvest [the huge outpouring of the Spirit they are expecting, with miraculous signs and wonders to convince the whole world to follow Christ].”

     “Antichrist can also be translated ‘against the anointing.’ The Greek word Christos means ‘anointing.’ (It’s a translation of the Hebrew word for messiah, which also means ‘anointed one.’) This antichrist can ultimately be discerned by its anti-anointing stance. It will be pompous and subtly oppose all the manifestations of the Holy Spirit’s power. Believers who live their lives resisting the anointing will become an unwitting part of the Antichrist’s resistance, a tool of the anti-anointing.[pg. 136-137]     

Earlier in the book, Enlow thoroughly explains how one can only truly be saved if one is a right-brained thinker.  Why?  Because he claims one can only have true faith if one has “experiences” with God, which right-brained thinking allows due of its subjectivity and reliance on experience.  He further states that Jesus was a right-brained (subjective) thinker who challenged the left-brained (objective) religious people of his day.  The same thing is meant by the phrase “prince of Greece.”  Left-brained Christians are too rational, bring division due to their emphasis on theology, and squeeze out the Spirit of God.  Also, the “anointing” they refer to is the current “outpouring” of the Spirit in Charismatic circles accompanied by uncontrollable laughter, dog-barking, acting drunk in the spirit, and constant special revelation, signs and wonders, and “experiences” with God that are about to bring about a world-wide revival. The question is, what spirit are they really talking about?  What spirit is behind this?  This is the same teaching that has been preached by the New Agers for over 100 years. 

*>Daryl here. According to Johnny Enlow, “religious”‘holy people’mentioned in Dan. 12:7,”left brain” christians, who profess Jesus, all the believers who have not been freed from rationalism, pompously and subtly opposing all of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit’s power, resisting the anointing, these will be the final “holy people” to be completely shattered, which means ‘shatter, break, dash, beat in pieces, pulverize’…they will not be our enemies, but we will be their enemies….”

Johnny completely turns this reference to ‘holy people’ around, making them (the religious holy people-Dan.12:7), the persecutors of the supposed ‘true church,’ the persecutors of the ‘new thing.’ But it is they (the ‘main stream new apostolic people’) who will persecute and ‘shatter,’ supposedly, the ‘left brain’ professing christians, who oppose all of the manifestations of the Holy Spirit’s power, being against the supposed ‘anointing,’ – regarded as part of the ‘anti-christ, anti-anoniting!’

The religious, ‘left brain christians, are viewed by the mainstream ‘apostolic people’ as ‘anti-christ!’ The ‘new apostolic movement’s’ agenda is to dismantle chritianity as we know it!

Dan. 12:7 “It will be for a time, and times, and half a time. When the power of the holy people has finally been shattered, all these things will be completed.”

Holy- # 6944-qodesh: apartness, sacredness, consecrated thing, dedicated thing, hallowed thing, holiness, most holy day, portion, thing, saint, set-apartness, separateness

Counterfeit Revival & Bloody Civil War

Prophets of the Counterfeit Revival claim that a bloody civil war is going to polarize the entire Christian community. On one side will be those who embrace new revelations. On the other will be those who obstinately cling to reason. One “prophet” went so far as to say, “God is going to renovate the entire understanding of what Christianity is in the nations of the Earth….In twenty years there will be a totally different understanding of Christianity as we know it.1  1- Mike Bickle Overview of Corporate Long Term Vision (n.p.), 5 January 1986; audiotape. https://www.equip.org/article/the-counterfeit-revival/

REDEFINITION OF TERMS: As part of this deception, basic fundamental terms are being redefined with Dominionist and/or Gnostic theology.

For example:


Johnny Enlow, The Seven Mountain Prophecy: Unveiling the Coming Elijah Revolution, pg 136-137 “Antichrist can also be translated ‘against the anointing.’ The Greek word  Christos  means ‘anointing.’ (It’s a translation of the Hebrew word for messiah, which also means ‘anointed one.’) This antichrist can ultimately be discerned by its anti-anointing stance. It will be pompous and subtly oppose all the manifestations of the Holy Spirit’s power. Believers who live their lives resisting the anointing will become an unwitting part of the Antichrist’s resistance, a tool of the anti-anointing.”

Bill Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth, pg 79, 81

“The nature of the antichrist spirit is found in its name: anti, “against”; Christ, “Anointed One”… the spirit of the antichrist is at work today, attempting to influence believers to reject everything that has to do with the Holy Spirit’s anointing.  That spirit has worked to reduce the gospel to a mere intellectual message, rather than a supernatural God encounter.”

Christ: A person who has been “qualified” by being baptized in the Spirit

Bill Johnson, Face to Face with God, p.109

The outpouring of the Spirit also needed to happen to Jesus for Him to be fully qualified.  This was His quest.  Receiving this anointing qualified Him to be called the Christ, which means “anointed one.”  Without the experience there could be no title.”

Bill Johnson, When Heaven Invades Earth: A Practical Guide to a Life of Miracles, p.79:

“Christ is not Jesus’ last name. The word Christ means ‘Anointed One’ or ‘Messiah.’ It is a title that points to an experience. It was not sufficient that Jesus be sent from heaven to earth with a title. He had to receive the anointing in an experience to accomplish what the Father desired.”

Face to Face with God: The Ultimate Quest to Experience His Presence, p.200:

“Most all of the experiences of Jesus recorded in Scripture were prophetic examples of the realms in God that are made available to the believer. The Mount of Transfiguration raised the bar significantly on potential human experience… The overwhelming lesson in this story is that Jesus Christ, the Son of man, had the glory of God upon Him… Only Peter, James, and John were privileged to be a part of this event. It was so extreme that Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about what they had seen until after His Resurrection… Certain things have no place in our hearts until we know of the Resurrection through our own conversion experience.  Through the Spirit of the resurrected Christ living in us we are designed to carry the same glory. But first we must go up the mountain – to the place where we meet God face to face.”

No Longer A Charismatic Vs. Non-Charismatic Issue

“The majority of the Church has not taken seriously the claims of the modern apostles and prophets to be introducing a new paradigm into the Body of Christ. These claims are far more than idle boasts. Indeed the paradigm shifts have already begun in many segments of Christianity. To say that the movement has grown rapidly would be a gross understatement. The Identity Network an email list promoting the teachings of the new apostles and prophets boasts a daily readership of over 150,000 people. The Elijah List, a similar network, is read by over 130,000 individuals daily. The issues raised by the new prophets and apostles go far deeper than a mere debate over the cessation or continuation of spiritual gifts. Without intending to be alarmist, it is the contention of this article that many of the statements and teachings of leaders within this movement strike at the very heart of essential Christian doctrine and the nature of Christianity. This is no longer a Charismatic vs. Non-Charismatic issue.” ‘The Apostolic/Prophetic Movement – Keith Gibson https://discernmentministriesinternational.wordpress.com/tag/bill-hamon/?fbclid=IwAR06J29BXUu9nOgaSgk49irFz_PAz1OAiANq1cxyb3pRtxT_d7ZbH_jYSaY

“This is the ERA OF THE UNEXPECTED!” Lana Vawser – Dec. 5 2019


Anathema To Criticise The New Things In The New Era

This ‘prophetic’ mindset theme is being continuously spouted in the mainstream ‘prophetic camp.’ Lana Vawser
“I felt the fear of God so strongly as the Lord spoke those words to me “Be careful not to criticise the new things that I am doing in this new era.”

“There was such a strong sense that surrounded me “Do not be quick to judge something as NOT God because it doesn’t fit the box or paradigm that you think it should.


“It will be the hand of God that will dismantle and rearrange things that were part of the old season and it’s time for new structures, a new wineskin.”

This is a very important warning from the Lord that all of us must take on board. We MUST be in the secret place as friends of God KNOWING HIM above ALL ELSE in this new era and not be found to be ones throwing stones with our words at what GOD is actually doing in the earth. Let us not be found standing in the WAY of what God is doing, rather than partnering WITH HIM in the greatest move of the Spirit of God in the earth. The move of God in this new era is going to expose the religious spirit unlike anything we have ever seen before.

Let us be found not criticising what God is doing in this new era if it looks completely different to what we expect. Let us be people that cry out “God make me ready! Teach me! Give me eyes that see and ears that hear to DISCERN what You are doing and partner with you even if it offends my mind.”

JENNIFER EIVAZ #GLORYCARRIERSWe have to remain open and unoffended at the Holy Spirit when He does something outside of our grid of understanding. He is infinite in His expression and going from glory to glory means He will by His very nature manifest a new thing in our midst. (Is. 43:19).” – Jennifer Eivaz #GloryCarriers https://www.facebook.com/jennifereivaz/posts/1697924610350456

Jennifer Eivaz thinks she encountered her miscarried daughter in heaven, which according to her, we’re not supposed to question. https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/76991-prophetic-vision-of-heaven-your-god-given-calling-will-have-eternal-impact

We (spiritual elite) are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects we destroy B. M. H.


Barbara Marx Hubbard, former US Vice Presidential candidate (in 1984, although Geraldine Ferraro ultimately made it on the Democratic ticket) and staunch New Ager, explicated a radical version of “Joel’s Army” in an unpublished manuscript from 1980 referencing Revelation 6:7-8 with the ‘pale horse’ of verse 8 representing those “elected to transcend with all their heart, mind and spirit”.7 This pale horse will “kill with sword” (Rev 6:8) the one-fourth of the population which refuses to “evolve” with the rest, deemed the “self-centered”8 – those who will fail to join the others into making the next evolutionary leap from homo sapiens sapiens to homo universalis (Universal Humanity). Compare the following to Hamon’s and Jones’ words below:

…The positive purpose of the R-T ( Resurrection-Translation) is to enable the army of the Lord [Joel’s Army, or MSoG militant] to finalize the war against all evil. The army of the Lord will progress on in the war until they have accomplished all they can in their limited mortal bodies. The R-T is for the purpose of immortalizing their bodies. This will remove all the earthly limitations, thereby enabling the saints unlimited abilities. They will be able to travel in all space realms of the heavenlies the same as Jesus and the angels do now. They can move in and out of all dimensions of the natural and spiritual realms as Jesus did in His resurrected flesh-and-bone body.1 Bill Hammon

God’s great end-time army is being prepared to execute God’s written Judgments with Christ’s victory and divine judgment decrees that have already been established in heaven. The time is set when they will be administered and executed on earth through God’s saintly armyAll that is destined and needed will be activated during God’s restorational Army of the Lord Movement…Bill Hammon

August 18, 2012 trance Bob Jones went in to while napping Shortly there will be a war that I will declare and it will be a great victory! For I am going to hire mercy-naries you see and I shall pay well when they work for Me. Health and peace of mind will be their pay and joy they never knew...They shall know defeat no longer but they shall be victorious. They shall know honor in Me. There will be no defeat for them. They are warriors and I will give them the victory. My pay to them shall be love, joy and peace that they will have within themselves. This shall be the tip of the sword of which they touch many. They have been warriors in many religious churches. Now I call them unto “the church” and they will have a victory in Me. (They) “have fought in many battles and [have been] scarred by the religious spirit. This religious spirit will no longer be able to touch them because they have been healed and delivered from it.” Bob Jones

These are the days Joel prophesied! The Father will blow the trumpet in Zion and call His army into formation. (Amos 1:1) These are not battle weary soldiers but warriors well-armed in the power of the word and the fear of the Lord. They march forward in the might of the Holy Spirit never breaking rank. They never strive against one another but move in unity forming God’s most powerful army.

Hubbard Before this stage of power can be inherited by the God-centered members of the social-body, the self-centered members must be destroyed. There is no alternative. Only the God-centered can evolve…

Fortunately, you, dearly beloveds, are not responsible for this act. We are. We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.

We come to bring death to those who are unable to know God. We do this for the sake of the world…

The riders of the pale horse are about to pass among you. Grim reapers, they will separate the wheat from the chaff. This is the most painful period in the history of humanity.

Those of you who know what is happening – the one-fourth who are now listening to the higher self – are to be guides for the rest who will be panicked and confused.9

Is this the sort of thing Bill Hamon, Bob Jones and the other hyper-charismatic leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation have in mind for those Christians who refuse to unify with their false belief system? Must the earth be purged of those “self-centered” Christians – the ones who will not unify with these false ecumenical, pluralistic efforts – to pave the way for the “One New Man”? Placing Hamon’s and Jones’ quotes above alongside Marx Hubbard’s, one must really wonder which side Hamon, Jones and their cohorts are really on.

It seems that, just like Marx Hubbard’s theology, there must be a battle to get rid of those “self-centered” Christians with a “religious spirit” before the “One New Man” can emerge. That is, this war must be fought before “Christ” can ‘return’ “IN his people” after which they become collectively “One New Man” a/k/a homo universalis (Universal Humanity).

The Coming Civil War In The Church


“Rick Joyner has assured me that he did not mean what I thought he meant in his article on the coming Civil War in the Church…I believe that this issue surely has to be the most critical that has faced the church in recent decades. Does God really want the prophetic movement “taking sides” in the coming conflict? And is this Civil War really a good thing, or will it be the most colossal disaster that has befallen the church in centuries?” Andrew Stromm

“This will, in fact, be one of the most cruel battles the church has ever faced. Like every civil war, it will cause brother to turn against brother like we may have never witnessed in the church before... What is coming will be dark. At times Christians almost universally will be loath to even call themselves Christians. Believers and unbelievers alike will think that it is the end of Christianity as we know it, and it will be...”…it was time to straightforwardly warn the church, and to begin preparing for this great war with the resolve to fight until there was a complete victory. The definition of a complete victory in this war would be the complete overthrow of the Accuser of the Brethren’s strongholds in the church...(those who oppose their spiritual practices, and beliefs) This battle must be fought. It is an opportunity to drive the accuser out of the church…” (From ‘Civil War in the Church’, published May, 1996 Rick Joyner)

A ‘new spirituality’ is in the making, as even in evangelical circles, the humanistic philosophical ideologies, and extra-Biblical ‘prophetic’ tho’t, and revelation, being compatible with new age tho’t, is leading to one, all inclusive, ‘universal church,’ that will oppose and persecute the true Church, that holds to the plain gospel of Jesus, abiding in Him, and His all sufficient sacrifice, His Words abiding in them, the new age agenda, using the corrupted church as a tool to incorporate deceived followers into it’s demonic ‘one world church,’ snare.

In other words, those who oppose the ‘agenda’ and philosophy of the ecumenical/evangelical/ charismatic/ prophetic, extra-Biblical, end time ‘triumphalism, manifest sons of god, ‘latter rain,’ glory outpouring,- these are the ‘accuser of the brethern,’ that will ‘driven out, or worse!’

EDITOR: Steve Van Nattan. “We MUST take the offensive NOW, or we will be the target later. This movement is now at the same point as Hitler’s Reich in its early days.  Nearly every pastor of Germany thought Hitler was saving Germany from its wickedness.  If you don’t join the battle now, you WILL be the enemy later.  Can you imagine what would happen if (a president or General) went for this program and got “renewed” Bill McCartney style?

Bill McCartney of Promise Keepers is using more and more militant vocabulary in his motivational speeches.  Robert Hicks who wrote the manual for PK, The Masculine Journey, is RIGHT NOW teaching religious terrorism for the US Air Force in Alabama, just 30 miles from Brownsville.

Spiritual warfare is being defined as getting rid of YOU dear Bible believer.  Rick Joyner is calling for a LITERAL civil war in which the Renewal good guys will LITERALLY kill those of us who reject this movement.  We have challenged them over and over to define what they mean, and their response is to “raise the level of hostilities” as Henry Kissinger would say.

“Are you living under the illusion that people will not return to the butchery of Hitler and the Inquisition? Read the book of Daniel and The Revelation of John. It IS coming, and there is NO promise in the Bible that we will not see this beginning of sorrows.”

Do you have to see your own family trashed by Promise Keepers operatives to learn?  Persecution will never come to your church house, eh? EDITOR: Steve Van Nattan

Bob Jones’ Prophecy of the Uniting of all Charismania, Promise Keepers & by Implication, the Roman Catholic Church

The Greatest Show on Earth’

The Lord is now beginning the early stages of the greatest show on earth. These workings of the Spirit are preparing the church and initiating what will become the greatest show an earth, referred to as the end-time ministry. One of the instruments that will be used in this greatest show on earth will be the Promise Keepers.

The Promise Keepers and their leadership will be singled out for intense persecution. They must embrace this with great humility, for the persecution will be the vehicle which will open doors internationally for this ministry. The Promise Keepers are now to go worldwide.

If the Promise Keepers will respond to the persecution with humility, then the Lord will respond to the Promise Keepers with the same answer that He gave to the inquiry of John the Baptist concerning the ministry of the Messiah. (Luke 7:22)


The Lord is calling the Promise Keepers to emerge as the dread champions of God and of the family. The glory of the Lord is preparing to fall on the Promise Keepers.

The Promise Keepers are not the only group that the Lord is calling according to this commission. He is also calling individual men and women along with other segments of the body of Christ. The Women’s Aglow will also be subject to this same commissioning as well as End Time Handmaidens and other such ministries with an emphasis towards intercession. These ministries are not in competition with one another but are complimentary one to the other.

The ministries of Women’s Aglow and End Time Handmaidens should continue their emphasis as in the past, for this will compliment the workings of the Spirit through Promise Keepers. The ultimate result of these ministries will be the reestablishment of Godly life within the Christian family which will function as the nucleus of power for the end time ministry. The church has been like a widow woman but now she is going to have a husband. This truth is applicable both in the natural and in the spiritual.


Web Address: http://www.hutch.com.au/~rlister/charis/bf2.htm

by Sidney W. Hunter

The Promise Keepers is a men’s organization which reportedly had its beginning when University of Colorado football coach Bill McCartney felt a need to develop a specialized ministry for men. He shared his concern with his pastor, Reverend James Ryle, who is pastor of Boulder Valley Vineyard Church and a former associate of Vineyard Ministries founder, John Wimber. (Remember it was through the Vineyard churches that the laughing revival came which is supposed to be evidence of Joel’s Army being born.)

The Promise Keepers has grown from 4,200 men who attended its first meeting in 1991 to an organization of hundreds of thousands. It is committed to “reach beyond racial and denominational boundaries.” It says concerning homosexuals, “while we have clear convictions regarding the issue of homosexuality, we are sensitive to and have compassion for the men who are struggling with these issues, we therefore support their being included and welcomed in all our events.” McCartney is said to have shouted out at the 1994 Seize the Moment Men’s Conference in Portland, Oregon, “Hear me: Promise Keepers doesn’t care if you’re a Catholic. Do you love Jesus, are you born of the Spirit of God?”

How do the Promise Keepers fit into the Vineyard, laughing revival, Joel’s Army equation? Let’s ask Pastor James Ryle. He pastors a Vineyard church and counselled McCartney concerning the inception of The Promise Keepers. Asked if the Promise Keepers could be fulfilling the prophecy in Joel of raising an army, James Ryle answered, “Yes … 300,000 men have come together so far this year under Promise Keepers … never in history have 300,000 men come together except to go to war. These men are gathered for war.”

Ed Tarkowski in his book Laughing Phenomena: Its History and Possible Effect on the Church is quoted as saying, “Promise Keepers has incorporated key doctrines of the Manifest Sons of God into their material. The February, 1995, issue of Suitable Helpers, a newsletter for women participating in Promise Keepers expresses that believers can become Christ incarnate: ‘Our Lord is calling out a great host of men ready and willing to become “Christs” in their homes: Promise Keepers. In grand bold sweeps God has mustered an army.'”

[ Comment: Editor– Balaam’s Ass Speaks— Bill McCartney of Promise Keepers is a Roman Catholic who claims to be born again in the Catholic model, and he vigorously promotes the Vatican at all PK rallies. ]

Apostolic ‘Popery’!-Universal Shift Of Power

“It was said of the Apostle Paul that he was turning the world upside down, it will be said of the apostles soon to be anointed that they will turn the world right side up. Nations will tremble at the mention of their names.”

Comment: Editor– Balaams’ Ass Speaks http://balaamsassspeaks.blogspot.com/
(The pope) “does have reason for concern as Christendom goes from one supreme apostle in Rome to thousands of wee popelettes! This will also dilute the “take” in each popelette’s offering plate.  Do you not see that team players Billy Graham, Bill Bright, Bill McCartney, Pat Robertson, Peter LeLonde, and Jack Van Impe will very likely be raised to apostleship at the insistence of the Pope?  And, who will play devil’s advocate?  Who will see to it that a devil does not sneak into the neo-apostolic heritage, as with Judas?”  

The line up to get on the apostleship band wagon will not be at Brownsville only–There will be lines of apostolic candidates at the Vatican, the World Council of Churches, Holy Trinity Brompton, and on every mission field in the world where an institutional church has developed from missionary effort.  Seminaries will offer degrees in apostleship.  There will be equal opportunity apostles raised to authority in various African and Far Eastern countries, as well as Black American popelettes seated so as to not offend the Black community.  

There will be line ups at conferences…Conference promoters will be hard pressed to know which apostle should have the high seat and which apostle the low seat.  Protocols regarding the Pope, when he appears in public, will be monumental. Cardinals will find themselves shifted down one seat because a Trinity Brompton apostle arrived, and apostles will have higher rank then Cardinals. We already see this order of the peck ad nauseam on TBN and at Toronto.  It could really get tricky folks! If it were not so deadly it would be comic.  If I were a bored agnostic, I would at once start doing seminars around the USA in “Preparing for Apostleship.”  We need a Bible believing church to sponsor the making of a video which dramatically portrays this insanity in derision.  

We acknowledge that there must be millions of people caught up in movements which are part of coming events, who have no idea of the direction in which they are going. They don’t see the “Big Picture.”

*> Daryl here. Part of the bigger picture, is the NAR ‘s agenda to dismantle, subdue and assimilate the existing church, and the satan’s agenda, to dupe everyone, likewise, all religions, est.’ing one world church.

Purpose Driven Dismantling of Christianity (Reprise)


By Marsha West

This overview (see web site above), of what I have termed Syncretism Stew shows a diabolically inspired supermarket of truth and error in the postmodern Church. What we’re witnessing is a shopping cart overflowing with false teaching. Aisle 1-Mysticism Madness; aisle 2-Charismatic Confusion; aisle 3-Pentecostal Pandemonium; aisle 4- Enlightened Emergents; aisle 5- Purpose-driven Pragmatism; aisle 6-Secular Strategies…to suck in seekers; aisle 7-Twelve-steps…to “group think”; aisle 8-Preposterous Pop Psychology; aisle 9- Discernment Disintegration; aisle 10-Predatory Pastors. On and on it goes.

Bill Hamon-The New Move Of The Spirit-Kingdom Now


So God is raising up apostles and prophets who are speaking some new and radical things; are setting the stage; are laying new foundations for a new era. Not just patching up what is already existing, but preparing the church for a new dispensation.

Hamon is of the few directly associated with the original Latter Rain movement of the 40’s and 50’, he sees nothing wrong with it; that is why he is actively promoting it. Hamon became involved in the movement after it was pronounced Heresy by AoG in the late 40’s as they rejected the idea that the Church is built on present-day apostles and prophets. In the late 80’s and early 90’s it resurged through the Vineyard churches when the Kansas City prophet movement introduced it. It is now reincorporated under a more influential  leadership of Peter Wagner (who was good friends with John Wimber) and Chuck Peirce.

We (Bill Hamon) have trained over thirty eight thousand individuals in six continents of the world, nine thousand leaders and over a thousand prophets and prophetic ministers have been raised up and are now prophesying and flowing like a river.

And it is being transmitted to good Bible churches transforming them into their new apostolic church model. Hamon says of Wagner “… Peter Wagner and several other ministers in the United States are saying we won’t recognize the 21st Century Church compared to what we are today. Amen? The last day apostles and prophets that are alive today is going to take the Church through the transition from the dispensation of grace to the dispensation of the Kingdom, from the dispensation of the mortal Church to the dispensation of the immortal Church (Transcript of Bill Hamon at ‘New Life Church’ Nov.13, 1997, entitled “Battle of The Brides”)

Here we have Hamon explaining his the Manifest Sons of God doctrine is to be accomplished by the apostles and prophets of our day. So we can see it is mandatory for it to be in position for their ends times model to take place.

“We are preparing to move into the age of Kingdom rule and dominion where Christ Himself, and we His saints, with Him, will rule and reign IN THE EARTH. …So God is raising up apostles and prophets who are speaking some new and radical things; are setting the stage; are laying new foundations for a new era. Not just patching up what is already existing, but preparing the church for a new dispensation…We are about to move from the dispensation of grace to the dispensation of dominion. We are about to see Jesus, not as the suffering lamb that was slain, but the roaring Lion who is King!”

Teaching men and women to be prophets and prophecy


Bill Hamon describes: “We developed a manual for ministering spiritual gifts to teach, train, activate, mentor and mature and now we have trained over thirty eight thousand individuals in six continents of the world, nine thousand leaders and over a thousand prophets and prophetic ministers have been raised up and are now prophesying and flowing like a river…. Now, you see I could take this group right here and take trainers and in one week I could every one of you flowing like a river in the prophetic. We’ve done it with thousands” (National School of The Prophets Mobilizing The Prophetic Office Bill Hamon 5/12/00)


Apostle Bill Hamon is even more direct when he writes, “…apostles and prophets must be restored before the Church can fulfill its predestinated end-time purpose on earth.” (4) He continues later in the same work, “The full restoration of apostles and prophets back into the Church will then bring divine order, unity, purity, and maturity to the corporate Body of Christ…..That will in turn bring about the end of this world system of humanity and Satan’s rule. The fulfillment of all these things will release Christ, who has been seated at the right hand of the thing will release Christ, who has been seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven, to return literally and set up His everlasting kingdom over all the earth.” (5)

 With the roots of the current movement planted firmly in the Manifest Sons of God teaching of the Latter Rain Movement, many of these teachers boldly proclaim that the church will conquer the world for Jesus Christ and establish His government by subduing the nations. A few, like Hamon, still teach that the church reaches glorification and immortalization (victory over death) before Jesus returns.

The NAR Apostles and Manifest Sons of God Theology: Training the Army of the Lord        http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/4/5/141110/1743/Front_Page/The_NAR_Apostles_and_Manifest_Sons_of_God_Theology_Training_the_Army_of_the_Lord

Bill Hamon’s “Mankind Race”

The quote in question was from Bill Hamon’s 2010 book Prophetic Scriptures Yet To Be Fulfilled. Hamon describes the “Final or Third Reformation of the Church” and its purpose.

“… to fulfill God’s original mandate to subdue all things, to take dominion and fill the earth with a mankind race in God’s own image and likeness…”

From Bill Hamon’s Apostles, Prophets and the Coming Moves of God, under the heading of “Apostolic and Prophetic Evangelism,

“The saints are being trained now in the military bases of international training centers and their local church armories. The goal is to have them taught, equipped and field trained to be the officers that lead God’s army of prophetic evangelist saints during the coming Saints Movement. They will minister under the covering and leadership of fivefold apostolic and prophetic generals who trained them. These saints will function like God’s army prophetically described by Prophet Joel (Joel 2:1-11).

Hamon teaches that this Army of the Lord Movement is imminent. In his 2010 book Prophetic Scriptures Yet to be Fulfilled, he states,

“In our generation, years ending with eight have been significant in restoration movements – in 1948, the Latter Rain Restoration Movement began, and Israel became a nation again; in 1988, the Prophetic Movement started; 1998 and 2008 marked the beginnings of the Apostolic Movement and the Third and Final Church Reformation, respectively.  During the Third Reformation, the Eighth Kingdom – the Kingdom of God  – will possess and rule over the kingdoms of this world…If every decade on the eighth year continued to be on the pattern, then we might see the Army of the Lord Movement in 2018, and the second coming of Christ in 2038.  The projected dates are only speculation, not prophetic revelation.”

“‘The Earth and all of creation is waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God, the time when they will come into their maturity and immortalization… When the Church realizes its full sonship, its bodily redemption will cause a redemptive chain reaction throughout all of creation.’ (Bill Hamon, The Eternal Church, p.385)

Hamon refers to this  “Army of the Lord Movement” in his writings, including Apostles, Prophets and the Coming Moves of God (1997) with a foreword by C. Peter Wagner.

Hamon refers to this  “Army of the Lord Movement” in his writings, including Apostles, Prophets and the Coming Moves of God (1997) with a foreword by C. Peter Wagner.

“God is preparing His Church to become an invincible, unstoppable, unconquerable, overcoming Army of the Lord that subdues everything under Christ’s feet.  There will be a sovereign restorational move of God to activate all that is needed for His army to be and do what He had eternally purposed.

…God’s great end-time army is being prepared to execute God’s written Judgments with Christ’s victory and divine judgment decrees that have already been established in heaven.  The time is set when they will be administered and executed on earth through God’s saintly army.  All that is destined and needed will be activated during God’s restorational Army of the Lord Movement.”

‘Latter Rain’ & ‘Manifest Sons Of God’ Hinge Pin


by Don Clasen
The Kingdom Gospel Messenger,
Vol.8, No.4, August 1996

“I consider it [the Latter Rain revival] to be one of the most important events in the history of God’s restorative plans. It’s the least understood, but has had profound effect on many of the present ministries involved in what God is doing today. The Word of the Lord that came out of that revival continues to reverberate and influence Christians world-wide. It seems like the streams that flowed out from that divine encounter–Restoration, Sonship, Kingdom Now, Life, and Immortality messages–these have remained on the fringes of the mainstream Church. However, many leaders have been profoundly influenced by this revival but have not endorsed it, nor have made explicit reference to it, because of the controversies and misunderstandings of what God actually did during those times.” – Paul Van Elst in a letter to Richard Riss, Feb. 1995

As the Latter Rain Movement spread out from its beginning in North Battleford, it began to coalesce into a loose movement of independent churches and ministries with varying degrees of relationship with one another.  Some of the more influential centers that were identified with it beyond the “Sharon brethren” were Elim Bible Institute and Assemblies out of Lima, New York; Bethesda Missionary Temple in Detroit with Mrs. Myrtle Beall; Portland Bible Temple in Oregon; Peniel Bible Institute in Argentina, and many other places. 

Among the more influential persons to emerge from these circles over the years were Ern Baxter who ministered extensively with William Branham from 1947 to 1953 and later became part of the “Ft. Lauderdale Five” Shepherding experiment of the 1970’s; Bob Mumford out of Elim and John Poole, both of which were also part of the Ft. Lauderdale Christian Growth Ministries; J. Preston Eby of El Paso; Bill Britton of Springfield, Missouri; Bill Hamon of Port Washington, Florida; David Ebaugh in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; Winston Nunes in Toronto;  Kevin Connor who has written some profound books on Old Testament typology; Ralph Mahoney of  World MAP;  and many, many others too numerous to mention.

As was said in part one of this series, the period immediately following World War II was a time of broad-based revival across the spectrum of the Body of Christ around the world, with the movement that became known as the “New Order of the Latter Rain” being just one stream among many enjoying this season.  In light of this, it is instructive to note that no less stalwart a promoter of  Latter Rain doctrines than Bill Britton admitted that a sovereign move of the Spirit hit the Assemblies of God’s Central Bible College in Springfield, Missouri in the fall of 1948.1 

I say this is instructive because  the Latter Rain movement tended to see the  Pentecostals out of which they came, to be backslidden and of the “Old Order” of things.  In fact, as the movement turned more and more inward, all denominations came to be seen as “Babylon”.  This development reflected a view that, on the one hand, “jumped the gun” as regards what indeed will yet become the ultimate nature of the denominational system (“Mystery Babylon”), while on the other hand, does not understand that belonging to a sect of  Christianity does not mean one is necessarily sectarian.2   

Nevertheless, within the atmosphere of this grace being poured out upon many, it seems there must have been an assumption that somehow the blessing of God they were enjoying was therefore a sign of Divine approval upon everything they were doing, including the doctrines they were developing.  The Pentecostals, however did not agree, and since it was taking root in many denominational Pentecostal churches as well as independent ones, it did not take long before friction and controversy began to erupt.  Less than two years after the North Battleford outbreak, the 1949 General Council of the Assemblies of God passed a resolution officially disapproving of these new doctrines.  It identified six of their biggest objections at that point:

1. The overemphasis relative to imparting, identifying, bestowing or confirming of gifts by the laying on of hands and prophecy.

2.  The erroneous teaching that the Church is built on the foundation of present-day apostles and prophets.

3.  The extreme teaching as advocated by the “New Order” regarding the confession of sin to man and deliverance as practiced, which claims prerogatives to human agency which belong only to Christ.

4.  The erroneous teaching concerning the impartation of the gifts of languages as special equipment for missionary service.

5.  The extreme and unscriptural practice of imparting personal leadings by the means of gifts of utterance.

6.  Such other wrestings and distortions of Scripture interpretations which are in opposition to teachings and practices generally accepted among us.3

At that council, the venerated Stanley Frodsham, one of the pioneers of Pentecost and the Assemblies in 1916 and the editor of their magazine The Pentecostal Evangel, resigned to join the Latter Rain circles.  The fact that this sort of thing had happened at all explains why the ten denominations of the Pentecostal Fellowship of North America feared the Latter Rain Movement was going to literally split the Pentecostals in two. 

In another censure thereafter, the Assemblies of God, fairly or otherwise, singled out Winston Nunes as representative of the Latter Rain doctrines, even though Nunes taught a more radical idea than most that saints this side of the Second Coming “can experience the resurrection body in this life.”4 Nevertheless, developments such as this indicate the directions some were beginning to take.

*>Daryl here. An interesting side note: Winston Nunes was Benny Hinn’s mentor – early 70’s

FURTHER HISTORY – ‘Word of Faith’ – ‘Healing Revival’ – ‘Charismatic Movement’ An affinity of the Latter Rain people with the later Word of Faith movement was also founded in other similar or mutually-held concepts as we shall see.  But the contact may have been established almost from the beginning.  For the Latter Rain people, like most Pentecostals of their day, felt particularly drawn to the great healing revival of the late 1940’s and  early 50’s wherein many evangelists–(now Word of Faith teachers) such as Kenneth Hagin, Oral Roberts, T.L. Osborn and others–got their start, *wherein some cross-pollination may have already begun to take place.. 

But with their being ostracized from the Pentecostal denominational churches, many Latter Rain teachers were forced to keep a low profile, develop their “revelations” and doctrines, and wait for a better atmosphere to work within.  It is this reality that may have contributed to the practice among some to remain coy about what they believe, as the quote at the beginning put it, “because of the controversies and misunderstandings” surrounding them. 

This “better atmosphere” came about with the inception of the Charismatic Movement in the 1950’s.  The Charismatic Renewal was the attempt to bring Pentecost to the mainline churches, since the mainline churches would not come to Pentecost.  The resulting blessing was mixed however, because with the ministry of the Holy Ghost came the need to accommodate everyone and their beliefs.  The outcome was a much greater emphasis on “unity”, but not a unity based on the pursuit or discussion of truth as on downplaying truth so as not to offend anyone.

This however, suited the Latter Rain teachers just fine, because it provided a setting wherein new and novel “third-party” theologies could respectably fill the doctrinal vacuum, and if the Latter Rain doctrines were anything, they were certainly new and novel.  In fact, this situation was so tailor-made to their purposes that Bill Hamon, a leader in the development of Latter Rain prophets, entitled a chapter in his book “The Eternal Church”: “The Charismatic Movement–An Expansion of the Latter Rain Movement”.8

The mainstream apostolic/prophetic movement has a militant agenda, assimilated into it’s doctrinal beliefs, and ideological world view, that aggressively resists and defies opposition to it’s core purposes of world domination, believing such to be a divine mandate, as ‘manifested sons of God.’ This ideological, deeply ingrained, doctrinal conviction, compels them to militancy, by the very nature of it’s demonic source. Therefore violent action is quite likely forthcoming, as time passes.

The ‘manifest sons of God’ heresy, bathed in the ‘Latter Rain’ outpouring belief, infiltrating practically every segment of ‘christian’ society, supposed revival, ‘move of God,’ etc., occult in nature, heretical and aberrant in practice, compatible with current new age practice and philosophy, along with humanistic psychology, sustained and propagated by keen, spurious, spiritually authoritative, apostolic and prophetic false/demonic anointing, given over to strong delusion by the Lord, will form a major part of the apostate, persecuting, one world church!

Numerous other ‘spiritual endeavours’ (ministries, missions, movements, etc.) have and will develope various, different symbiotoic, and syncrestic relationships, many on a invisible, spiritual level only, all connected spiritually, to the ‘apostate church.’

This why the ‘mainstream apostolic/prophetic/charismatic movement,’ is perhaps nearly irredeemable, spiritually given over to strong delusion, yielded,to the working of Satan, in every power, and in signs, and in wonders of falsehood, and in every deception of wickedness unto those perishing, in return for which they did not receive the love of the truth in order for them to be saved. And because of this, God will send to them a working of delusion, for them to believe what is false, in order that all those not having believed the truth but having delighted in unrighteousness should be judged.” 2 Thessalonians 2:9-13

Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophecy lies in my name; I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. Therefore thus saith the Lord concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed. And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters; for I will pour their wickedness upon them. Jeremiah 14:14-16

“I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination

Seek The Lord’s Perspective In This Corona Virus Crisis

Regardless of the implications of the issues, there is a global effect!

I haven’t weighed in on the virus issue, until now! Beyond the fear vs. faith, possible exaggerations, practical cautionary steps, truths about the virus, paranoia reactions, conspiracy theories, there is something I feel we need to understand.

Beyond all of these issues, regardless, there is a global mindset, reaction, and affect, with global influence, repercussions and ramifications. Considering this global phenomenon, I believe we need to seek the Lord, to gain His perspective in this crisis, regardless of everything else!

Is this event a sign, an indication beyond the virus issue, of global end time significance? We cannot assume, presume a typical Y2K, SARS, etc. scare, embracing a ‘false alarm’ mentality. Last week the fire alarm went off in our apt. bldg. I checked the front hall and out the back door, to ensure there was no emergency. We must stay alert, watchful, prayerful, informed, seeking the Lord for His communication to the Church. Scripture has already given warnings of end time events. Let us take heed to them, being wise in these ‘last days.’ God bless.

‘Prophetic Presumption’? Are they ‘prophesying’ out of their own personal theological imagination?

“The Coronavirus Tide Is Turning Now!”

Shawn Bolz  “The Coronavirus Tide Is Turning Now!”


Mainstream Prophetic Camp Presumptive Prophecies
The reliability of the ‘mainstream’ ”prophetic” has been compromised. What is the Lord real saying? “Shawn Bolz is giving lessons on how to pray the coronavirus away. Earlier in March, Bolz informed Fox News that “God has a plan.” Then two or so weeks ago, he wrote in Charisma that “the Lord showed me the end of the coronavirus. The tide is turning now!”

The coronavirus tide certainly has turned, just not in the way Bolz wants people to think it has. Since he penned that piece on February 28, cases of novel coronavirus have zoomed up to 1700 as of Friday, March 13, and Right Wing Watch notes this number is probably too low because the U.S. is too poorly equipped to test people for the virus.

But rather than discuss this, Bolz resorts to fear-mongering about the media and Satan-blaming.

He included this so-called prophecy in his e-book, “Standing in Faith Against Coronavirus”:

“The Lord showed me the end of the coronavirus. The tide is turning now! God is on the side of humanity. He is answering the prayers and cries of the nations and is putting an end in sight. The exaggerated fear-based tactics of both the enemy and several media outlets for political reasons is coming to an end. The enemy has been trying to distract and steal from several equally important purposes and issues by dominating airwaves with conspiracy and fear.”

Then he wrote that coronavirus would soon be a thing of the past.

“Within a short amount of time, the extreme threat will feel like it is in the past. God is using prayers from around the world as a highway for healing and to bring about solutions in a mighty way.”

Cindy Jacobs ‘Prophetic Presumption’?


“We’re going to decree that the coronavirus will cease worldwide. … Father, in the name of Jesus, You have promised we have all authority, not some authority! You have promised that we are seated with You in heavenly places, so we take Throne Room authority, and we bring that into the situation of the coronavirus, and we say in the name of Jesus, “Virus, you are illegal! This is God’s Earth!”

https://www.god.tv/…/call-for-prayer-a-response-to-the…/zype – Full video here.

20 min. mark – Cindy introduces Steven Springer, a “‘prophet’ with a ‘sure word of the Lord.” Steven, “What is being established right now is the greatest awakening this planet has ever seen.” He reiterates dream he had about John G. Lake…Tells about supposed bubonic palgue germ dying in Lake’s hand, then says Lake placed new anointing in Steven’s hands, representing an anointing that would break the yoke. Then Jesus appeared behind him and said, “Breathe in Me, exhale the kingdom.” 3x

A researcher made this observation about John G. Lake. “According to Lake’s revelation no germs could live in him in Africa, but in the US it was a different story. research done by Greg DesVoignes cites the “Spokesman Review,” April 24, 1929

“Frequently he had to pause to cough or sneeze, as he was suffering from a cold. Once he had to go out into the hall to stop a spasm of coughing.” http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac41.htm

Lots more ‘Lake Affects’ http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac40.htm – Swimming in Lake Exaggeration

54:30 min. mark Havilan Ford shares a dream. 21 day fast, ending with global 40 day fast, that would open a window to a 40 year revival to the nations. She says the virus is a distraction to delay the revival. She decrees 40 year window opening up to revival. The rain of the ‘spirit’ is drowning out the corona virus.

Then Cindy makes her ‘prophetic decree’ at 58:30 min. mark, “We’re going to decree that the coronavirus will cease worldwide. Virus, you are illegal! This is God’s Earth!…This corona virus must stop right now.”

Presumption In Prayer Decrees And Prophecies

There is much presumption in these ‘prayer decrees and prophecies, reflected from erroneous ideas, let me explain.

This is unsubstantiated presumption, Steven Springer -“What is being established right now is the greatest awakening this planet has ever seen.”

This is also, Havilan Ford – “global 40 day fast, that would open a window to a 40 year revival to the nations. The virus is a distraction to delay the revival. She decrees 40 year window opening up to revival. The rain of the ‘spirit’ is drowning out the corona virus.”

We cannot decree/prophecy revival. There is a huge error in this mindset. Think about it, from a Biblical perspective. The concept of ‘spiritual authority’ has been blown way out of proportion, and the conditions for any authority, to witness and exp. the power of God, are totally neglected.

Commanding a virus to cease world wide is presumptive as well.
Cindy Jacobs – “We’re going to decree that the coronavirus will cease worldwide. Virus, you are illegal! This is God’s Earth!…This corona virus must stop right now.”

We don’t have authority to remove sickness from the entire earth instantaneously! Jesus prayed for the sick He came into contact with. In one town He could only heal a few sick ones, because of their unbelief. Mk.6:5-6

These decrees, practices, beliefs, prophecies, dreams, mindset are derived from erroneous, faulty, man exalting imaginations, and may shortly be exposed as so, if continuing. The whole spiritual authority/ warfare theological philosophy, has entered into dangerous deception and presumption, that is leading to a fall!

James 4:13-16 says, “Come now, you who say, ‘Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit.’ Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, ‘If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that.’ But as it is, you boast in your arrogance; all such boasting is evil.”

“But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.” Deut. 18:20
In this age of grace, God deals with presumption differently, yet still does.

“For rebellion is as the sin of divination/witchcraft, and presumption/ stubbornness/arrogance/insubordination/defiance, is as iniquity and idolatry.” 1 Sam. 15:23

We cannot decree/prophesy global awakening, nor sickness to cease world wide. This is presumption! Seek the Lord, for His perspective and how to pray and respond, re: the immediate issues and the global impact ramifications and end time indications.

Spiritual Disciplines With Spiritual Harm -24/7 Prayer/Worship

It May Have ‘Hooks in It

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Baited Lure Hooks To Entice

There are times when what seems obviously, and is normally good, may have a ‘HOOK IN IT.‘ Hooks are baited to entice fish to bite! There is much in the 24/7 ‘worship & prayer’ movement, that is ‘hook baited’ to entice to partake of and participate in, seemingly good, virtuous, spiritual, activities, hook bait, to draw people in to something totally other.


Some definitions for deception are: a misleading falsehood, the act of deceiving, an illusory feat, a misrepresentation, a showy misrepresentation intended to conceal something unpleasant, a partially true statement intended to deceive or mislead, the act of giving a false appearance, beguilement= deceive by guile (cunning intelligence) or charm, seduce= manipulate by attraction, lure.

Discernment on the other hand means: the ability to judge well, the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure, the ability to obtain sharp perceptions or to judge well, the process of making careful distinctions in our thinking about truth. In a Christian context, discernment is the ability to think biblically.

First Thessalonians 5:21-22 teaches that it is the responsibility of every Christian to be discerning: “examine everything carefully; hold fast to what is good; abstain from every form of evil.”

Biblical discernment would examine, analyze, scrutinize, look closely, and carefully at, observe intently, and consider what Scripture would have to say regarding what is being examined. We will continued to do so, examining carefully, regarding things about “Awaken The Dawn,” and ‘Stadium Enterprises’ that may normally be good, and appear as good, noble spiritual endeavours.

*>Daryl. Lou Engle brings a few hooks, ecumenism, (covered in part 1) and fasting. Fasting is not always a ‘noble spiritual endeavour. I will expound on fasting as well. In Lk. 18:11-14 Jesus gives a story’ “The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

*The ‘Latter Rain’ movement, ‘birthed’ in North Battleford Sask. in 1947 at the ‘Sharron School,’ was in an extended period of fasting, encouraging the students to reach for a goal of 40 days of fasting. The whole school and staff carried an elitism, separation, isolation attitude, as they entertained false doctrine. Their extreme fasting and attitude was one of fanaticism. So fasting, combined with other issues created a spiritual ideological ‘monster,’ plaguing the church today, a ‘HOOK’ in the charismatic movement, that has baited and caught perhaps millions of believers!

Combing For Hooks

*>Daryl here. I will address the ‘hook’ in worship, later. Things like yoga, embraced now by many ‘believers,’ is a demonic syncrestic tool, like ‘contemplative prayer, which is an integral part of much 24/7 type prayer, this being another ‘hook’ in the ‘prayer movement.

One writer observes, It is alarming that 24/7 uses monastic tradition – and to such length – as one of its primary foundations. Why?Because there is an approximate 200-year gap between the apostolic age and the monastic age and, therefore, the question must be asked: where did the monastic tradition originate if not from the apostles? And if not from the apostles – and henceforth from Jesus – then why would we follow its example?

It should also be noted that the concept of 24/7 corporate prayer and worship is not mandated in scripture. Nowhere in the New Testament did anyone set up houses of 24/7 prayer. And despite attempts to find it in Amos 9:11, the Bible really knows nothing of the reestablishment of Davidic worship among New Testament believers. Additionally, many of the prayer practices such as Contemplative Prayer, Prophetic Decrees, and spiritual mapping find no support in scripture. The fact that these are done 24/7 only compounds the problem. Doing a great deal of something wrong doesn’t cause it to be right. http://www.discernmentministries.org/Newsletters/NL2012SepOct.pdf

I want to mention some of what was said and give information concerning each of the main speakers. Here are a few statements from the very beginning: We’re going to make some proclamations… Shofar players are going to shake the foundations of this city!…We proclaim tonight the beginning of the greatest awakening in America!… We proclaim a new Jesus movement has begun across America!” (So, we have someone declaring that the greatest awakening in America has begun. Obviously this person doesn’t know that according to several scriptures in the Bible the Church in the last days will consist of many deceptions, false teachings, false Christians and false teachers, rather than a great end time revival or awakening. True believers will be on a narrow path (Matt. 7:14) and they will have only a little strength (Rev 3:8) (http://www.biblebelievingtruthwatch.com/revival-for-today.html).

Additionally, the idea of proclamations being made shows the Word of Faith flavor of this event. Many Word of Faith beliefs can be traced back to New Thought metaphysics which teaches that the human mind through positive mental attitude and positive confession has the power to create its own reality. Well, people can positively confess a revival or great awakening all they want, but if the opposite is prophesied in God’s Word, we will not see a revival or awakening. It’s as simple as that! (http://www.biblebelievingtruthwatch.com/word-of-faith-error.html)

*>Daryl. These proclamation type prayers, speaking revival, “proclaim(ming) tonight the beginning of the greatest awakening in America!… We proclaim a new Jesus movement has begun across America,” These ‘opinionated’, lacking Biblical validation, prayers, are ‘hooks’ in the activities of this movement, and considering that worship and prayer are integral, these ‘hooks’ are huge inroads for counterfeit influences, in 24/7 ‘prayer & worship,’ including IHOP.

*These questionable approaches in ‘prayer,’ decreeing what is believed, ‘prophesying’ in prayer, etc. but not based clearly upon Scripture, believing their ‘confession’ is ‘shifting atmospheres, making a difference, when considering that much of the 24/7 prayer is based on this perception and other erroneous ‘prayer’ approaches, applications, and focus, one can hopefully begin to see, that 24/7 prayer and worship, is not what it is made out to be! With that much focus on supposed prayer, wisdom in God ordered prayer is so important. The issue of ‘contemplative prayer’ is another hook, that is being decried quite a bit now. What is really going on in 24/7 prayer, is the question, to be asked and answered!

These are questions to be asked and answered. As spiritual as 24/7 prayer and worship may seem, it’s not Biblical, it’s roots, early and modern are questionable, the orthopraxy and orthodoxy, spurious, and the results negligible. The concept and exp. may even fit the description of asceticism, as it pertains to fanaticism. An insightful article on the virtues of true asceticism, and some distortions that lead to fanaticism can be viewed here. https://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/20110308_1.htm

False Prophecy -Catalysts For False Revival

*>Daryl. Bob Jones has been highly influential in many ‘kingdom now’ endeavors, ‘prophesying’ false information that has become a catalyst and focus for many vain ‘labours’ in numerous ministries, these false prophesies and false doctrine being ‘hooks’ in the movement as well! False prophecy can be a catalyst for false, counterfeit, revival, ‘moves of God’, and ‘ministries.’

Will-Worship – Asceticism

Such restrictions indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-prescribed/self imposed worship, their false humility, asceticism and their harsh treatment of the body; (may seem wise because they require strong devotion, pious self-denial,) but they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh. Col. 2:23

Here’s an interesting description from Strongs re: Col. 2:23

Will-worship #1479 ethelothrēskeía (from 2309 /thélō, “desire” and 2356 /thrēskeía, “religion”) – properly, self-willed religion, defined by the desires of the human will – which amounts to nothing! This form of “worship,” which is accomplished “by self” (Souter), is merely a “will-worship,” exalting the worshiper at God’s expense (used only in Col 2:23). Much of the worship at 24/7 events may very well be sincere towards God, yet it may still be self-imposed, human effort to accomplish something out side of Divine and Biblical mandates, and can easily turn to, exalting the worshiper at God’s expense, becoming strong soulish devotional , pious self-denial, sanctimonious.

Strongs adds this; worship which one devises and prescribes for himself, contrary to the contents and nature of the faith which ought to be directed to Christ; said of the misdirected zeal and practices of ascetics;

This is not an accusation, but observance of potential problems, because; they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh, and if not initiated by God, all the more so is the potential, as a matter of fact, misdirected zeal and practices of ascetics, as fanaticism, will most likely result in soulish piety, and false humility. 24/7 prayer/worship, not being Biblically mandated, is not going to be governed by the Spirit of God! Spending extreme amounts of time in such a manner, is not normal, or conducive to a healthy balanced Christian life, for the spirit, soul, and body, of a believer.

Again, this practice came from monasticism, not from Scripture, and even tho’ the period of isolation from basically the outside world of every day reality, may be intermittent, the ongoing periods, length of periods, questionable practices during those periods, create more concern than just ineffectiveness.

Constant ‘worship’ for long periods of time can be just as detrimental as forced silence, inhibiting the ability to think. I will discuss ‘white noise,’ regarding this. Prayer applied to the same circumstances will create the same concerns. Misdirected zeal is fanaticism.

A couple of observations made by attendees at IHOP events reinforces these concerns.

“The IHOP conferences and events are stage-managed to produce the maximum amount of visual, aural, psychological, sensual and spiritual stimuli—all of which can superficially appear to be revival. But is it biblical revival? …What is perceived as spiritual is in reality soulish, contributing to a euphoric state of altered consciousness from repetitious choruses that follow one upon the other. The mesmerizing effect of the music creates a frame of mind open to suggestion by the subsequent preaching of dominionist teachers who build on the fervor of the moment with messages of future power and glory.”

…there is another practice of “presence” that is taking the evangelical world by storm. In the IHOP/NAR the passionate invocation of the “presence” (which they call the “Spirit”) isn’t just done via contemplative meditation. They believe that the “presence” is achieved via the elaborate staging of flashy lighting, noisy music and hypnotic manipulations in the context of what they call “worship.” The clear intent is to create an altered state of consciousness – a spiritual/emotive state in which the participant is susceptible to heretical suggestions, “feels” closer to God, and learns that he/she may even become a god. Thus their “passion” is believed to invoke the “presence” of God… This passion-filled worship involves more than simple singing of hymns or humble prayers and petitions. It incorporates various psychological and sociological techniques to affect the emotions. Key variables are stage-managed in order to create an “atmosphere” of heightened experiences, all said to be of God. Thereby this engineered “passion” claims that it can invoke the “presence” of God. 


Mantra Meditation

Mantra meditation is so very seductive because it generates a very powerful, seemingly supernatural experience that can make one feel as if they are actually encountering “God.” The first meditation I ever did at age 20 left me utterly convinced that I had experienced the presence of God. In hindsight, I believe that this encounter truly was supernatural.


White Noise Here We Come


OVERSTIMULATING! Driving home from the U of C last Friday afternoon I caught a broadcast on the increasing mental health dilemma in our youth.

For sometime I have been quietly listening and observing our current daily practices in our culture. I believe our ability or inability to balance our lives is directly connected to our mental health. Recognizing or not recognizing the need for downtime should not be hinged on our age and generational background only, our personality traits must also be considered, as well as our spiritual beliefs and traditions.

For example for someone born at the very end of the Baby Boomer generation, one might conclude I don’t embrace technology therefore I am not plugged in 24/7, not cool, not hip, and live in slow motion. However I embrace technology and my addictive personality finds me fighting for mental balance among the fray – all of the time.

I attribute my mental health to cultivating my spiritual health. My ability to recognize when I am over stimulated or driven, or anxious comes from actively meditating on my relationship with Christ, and His Word. Might I suggest reading the Psalms, both the laments and the praises? It is a great way to contemplate injustice, sorrow, poverty, creation, beauty and nature, and realize humankind has faced similar problems and celebrations since the dawn of time. This truth reveals we are not alone, God can hear us, and He wants to comfort us and restore our minds.

If we are to navigate the overwhelming waters of our culture’s technology frenzy, we must make sure to schedule downtime for reflection and meditation, and genuine relationship.

The inability to go for a walk without a phone is a red flag. The inability to sit by the fire on a cold winter’s night without your computer is troublesome. Have you been watching a movie with your phone or i-pad in hand and feeling rather accomplished at your capacity for multitasking? Have you studied the advertising practices on television and recognized the same patterns? It isn’t enough to watch a movie anymore, you must have advertisements, and pop ups with even more information.

How often do you allow your conversation over coffee to be interrupted by your cell’s ringtone? Do you take all of your devices with you on a holiday? Are you one of those travelers who has to watch multiple movies? Do you take  work home with you? Do you shut off unnecessary interruptions when you are studying? Ultimately we are overstimulating our brain. There is no longer an even flow of any one thought. Multiple chores and tasks are taken on at one time, with many left unfinished. We are stopping and starting like a beginner driver, or living from pop up to pop up.

Contrary to popular belief, we do not need to be plugged in 24/7. There have  been studies done on teen stress due to having phones on all night.  There are signs of loss of vocabulary, the inability to speak in full sentences. The emoji craze was fun for a fleeting second, but for some the world of texting and emojis have replaced reality, which can lead to an unrealistic craving for over sharing and drama. This drama can inadvertently change the atmosphere and attitude of your entire day, if it succeeds to pull you in.

Ever since the beginning of time we have been creating with the brains God has given us. However, when we leave God out of the picture our brains begin to hurt. We create, overstimulate and crash. Then we have to expend a ton of energy creating something else to fix the mess. Right now we are in that mess, and back paddling frantically to figure out how to help our brains heal.

God is the key to balancing our lives. God’s love, purpose and plan is the key to our mental health.

Today, if we are to take a real honest look at our nation, we have cause to mourn. By taking God out of our culture, our schools, our lives, our hearts and minds – we will continue to short out at breakneck speed. White noise here we come. (and increasing mental and spiritual health dilemma!)

Examining every thing closely and discerning Biblically is so important. This is not nit picking!

More Hooks! – False And Fuzzy Gospel – False Ideas

“the cross to me isn’t the revelation of my sin, the cross is actually the revealing of my value Todd White

Another speaker was Nick Hall. He organized the Together 2016 event which was held in July of last year. The thing that should stand out in people’s minds the most concerning this event is how ecumenical it was. Nick even visited the pope, gave him a copy of his book “Reset” (as mentioned previously, with no Scripture – no gospel!), and a T-shirt with the Together logo on it. In turn, pope Francis made a video for the event and invited those watching to “find the One who can give you an answer to your restlessness,” and encouraged everyone to wear the Together 2016 T-shirt. (https://www.christianpost.com/news/together-2016-pope-francis-urges-millennials-to-find-the-one-who-can-give-you-an-answer-to-your-restlessness-166598/)

Here are some of Nick Hall’s statements at Awaken the Dawn: “Can we make some noise for Jesus? God is on the move…Jesus is passing by right now…Is there anything between you and God today? Because I’m telling you, man, we know God wants to send revival. We know He wants to send a great awakening…Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life…Jesus died on the cross…” (So, we hear him make some true statements, but he also makes these false statements about a great awakening. And, this is often how Satan operates; he mixes dark with light so he can deceive even more people. Most people will say, oh, we heard Jesus died on the cross and it doesn’t matter to them what else someone says or does. You know, one could clearly see the Ouroboros tattoo on the inside of Nick’s arm as he was raising it and exhorting the crowd. For anyone who is unaware, Ouroboros is a Greek word meaning “tail devourer,” and is one of the oldest mystical symbols in the world. I will have a link to an article about this in the notes on Facebook also). (https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-ouroboros-70.html)

Todd White also spoke. His ministry is called Lifestyle Christianity and his focus is on healings, signs, and wonders. Here is part of what he had to say at Awaken the Dawn: “Every sexually transmitted disease, we command to leave the field. Every addiction, get out right now, in Jesus’ Name. Bloodstreams, I command you be healed in Jesus’ Name. Hepatitis C, I curse you and command you, get out! Father, I thank You for every disease, every sickness, being healed right now in Jesus’ Name. I thank You for every scar, every cut, being healed right now in Jesus’ Name. We thank You for healing all over the field. We thank You for miracles all over the field, right now, right now.” Then the crowd repeated this several times. Then he said, “I want all of you to check your bodies physically. I want you to check your scars. If you are healed; if you felt heat sweep right through your body I want you to testify with both arms over your head right now.” (However, in order to tell if most of the sicknesses he mentioned were healed, a person would have to see a doctor. But, Todd expects the people to know because they have felt heat sweep through their bodies. We do not read of any such occurrence in God’s Word, but rather we do read of such heat sensations concerning kundalini awakenings in the occult). (https://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/k/kundalini.html)

There are many videos and articles concerning Todd White’s false teachings, but an interview he conducted on TBN stands out. Todd says, “See, the cross to me isn’t the revelation of my sin, the cross is actually the revealing of my value… How much did heaven pay? How much did Jesus pay to get us back?…The value of the person is determined by the price that was paid for it.” (https://www.facebook.com/trinitybroadcastingnetwork/videos/1019834738053055/ 1:19 mark) (Talk about confused and turning what Jesus came to do for us absolutely upside down).

At one of his events Todd White is onstage standing between two Catholic priests and they’re all holding hands. Todd White says this: “I believe that the Catholic church and the Christian church are going to come together.” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzk3AtoLsEI 19:59 mark) (One can’t make his or her ecumenical beliefs much clearer than that, can they?)

Another speaker was Shawn Bolz and the following is part of a biographical sketch about him at the Bethel TV website: (https://www.bethel.tv/speakers/show/74/shawn-bolz)

Shawn Bolz is passionate about seeing both individuals and groups become the best version of themselves. Shawn has been a pioneer in ministry, including the prophetic movement, since he was in his teens. His focus is on intimacy with God, creativity through entertainment and social justice. Shawn lives in Los Angeles, where he is involved as talent for the entertainment industry and is the Senior Pastor of Expression58 Church. (We see not a speck of the gospel of salvation in any of that).

And, here are just a few of his statements at Awaken the Dawn: “God wants to release His mind and His thoughts to us.” Then he called out two names, and said the couple was from CA. Then he gave them this “word of knowledge”: “What you’re doing in the house of prayer movement in Chico; it’s going to change a state. God’s giving you a governmental assignment over CA.” (So, he definitely ascribes to 7MM teachings).

A ‘Hook’ Of Ecumenism

And, to show his ecumenical bent, at one of his speaking engagements he was discussing contending for the deep relationship with Jesus and the knowledge of Him, not for the ministry performance driven life. He said, “I took a break from mystery at the age of 28 and I studied anybody in history who had that deep connection with God for the sake of connection…and I found them in the mystics in the Catholic church…I studied St. Teresa of Avila, St. Francis of Assisi, St. Catherine of Sienna, St. John of the Cross.” (https://www.facebook.com/GrahamCookeBBH/videos/10155262616193918/ 6:24 left)

Incidentally, and many of the listeners have probably heard about this – Shawn was part of Azusa 2016 and he delivered words of knowledge to the crowd which he read off his Iphone. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzdjsWjFRU0)

Two other well-known speakers at this event were Francis Chan and Heidi Baker. Francis Chan is a popular evangelical speaker, but he has chosen to link arms with Mike Bickle and has spoken at his IHOP conferences several times. These IHOP conferences are quite ecumenical with Catholics Matt Maher and Audrey Assad leading worship and the conference schedule including a Catholic track. (I watched a video the other day of one of the IHOP sessions in which Frances Chan said how much he appreciated Matt Maher’s stand on the Word of God. How sad and deceived is that?)(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2muxxpAc-8 1:26:00 in)

Heidi Baker has been part of the NAR and the healing, signs and wonders movement since the 1990’s. We did a discussion on her not too long ago so I will include the link (https://www.facebook.com/tammy.cheetham.77/videos/267643840401998/) to that in the notes on Facebook. Since there is so much information about her in that discussion I will only mention one example of her ecumenism here. During one of her messages (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzk3AtoLsEI 9:55 and 10:19) she said she saw the following in a vision: “There is a net catching all these people and she mentions Catholics and then says only when you work together can you bring in the harvest. Also,“if they love Jesus, work together.” (And, we have heard that concept so many places, but it doesn’t make it Biblical).

These groups are trying to speak a revival into existence; to actually impose revival on people, on the nation. Many people are embracing this because these groups bring a message of unity and people are tired of seeing the racial divides, the disunity all across this nation. However, all this false unity is laying the groundwork for the OWO as we often say. I pray people will wake up before it’s too late).

Hooks Errors Spiritual Discipline With Spiritual Harm

Many hooks, errors, that are, in fact, harmful, fanatical, ascetic practices, causing spiritual, mental, emotional harm, as well as distracting from a true/evangelistic gospel focus, leading participants further into deception!

‘New Era’ Ideologies Thro’ out Church History


>Daryl here, my response to Matthew’s article. “Excellent work. Challenged me to purge myself of any leanings to ‘isms.’ I began a blog on the popular term in Christian circles ‘New Era,’ covering ‘New Era Ideologies In Church History,’ and I came across your article in searching this topic.”

I have gained more insight into the influence of ideologies in the Church! Thank you.

“To get at what I mean by ideology: combine the words “idea” with “idolatry.” I speak of ideology as any idea, or any system of ideas, that has become for us an idol. That is, whenever an idea, or a system of ideas, becomes, in effect, God for us, and we trust it to explain everything, fix everything and prove ourselves more right, virtuous and intelligent than others.” Mathew Swora https://zionmennoniteoregon.org/when-ideology-comes-to-church/?unapproved=112&moderation-hash=c48923b15356ac14ca86acaf5e4e46fc#comment-112

I highly recommend reading the article above, as I see the relevancy of this truth played out in ‘spades,’ in the Church at large today. Many ideologies are slowly removing the gospel and Biblical truth from the Church, ideologies are being taught as doctrines. They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men. Having neglected the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men. And He was saying to them, “Neatly do you set aside the commandment of God, that you might keep your traditionThus you nullify the word of God by the tradition you have handed down.” Mark 7: 7-9,13

‘New Era’ Ideologies Thro’ Out Church History

Mirage Of A Golden Age


The Progressive’s Abandonment of the Past – The golden age is now

The Conservative’s Search for the “Golden Age”-Looking for a return to a previous era.

The thoroughgoing progressive believes things have been getting better, not worse, and the thoroughgoing conservative believes things have been getting worse, and not better. As such, the Christian (conservative) is likely to push for a return to a previous era. Taylor explains:

“They (the Middle Ages, or the seventeenth century, or the pre-60’s America) got it right, and we have to repudiate whatever in modern times deviates from that standard” (745).

Because evangelicals see ourselves tasked with engaging and resisting the culture simultaneously, we always face the temptation of pining for a golden era of Christianity.

The Early Church

Some believe in the pristine days of the early church and want to return to the simplicity of those times. But a cursory reading of the New Testament reveals that the earliest days were not flawless. Doctrinal crises, moral quandaries, disciplinary actions, and divisive factions often carried the day. There is much good we can retrieve from the early church, but we cannot and must not try to return.

The Great Tradition

In recent years, there has been a surge of interest in the church fathers. I have benefited from the writings of Chrysostom, Augustine, Hilary, and Basil. The recent translations and commentaries on these ancient works offer us spiritual nourishment.

And yet, it is a mistake to think of the centuries of ecumenical councils as a “Golden Age.” These were also the years that gave us an amped up neo-Platonic vision of the body, downplayed the ordinary Christian life, led toward ascetic extremes, and married church and state to the point crusades could be led in the name of the Prince of Peace.

The Reforming Puritans

The gospel-centered crowd today is most likely to look back to the Reformation and the subsequent centuries. We look back with gratitude for the recovery of justification by faith and the Puritan era of personal piety, doctrinal precision, which stirred revivals that shook the landscape of early America.

But even here, we are wrong to spot a “Golden Age.” All the Reformational heroes are marred in one way or another: Luther’s anti-Semitism, Calvin’s egregious treatment of doctrinal disputants, Edwards’ acceptance of slavery, etc. Geneva is a Ghost Town with buried treasure still being unearthed; it is not a home we can ever inhabit again.

“Immediate to God”

In short, there is no Golden Age of Christianity. Taylor quotes Ranke’s famous phrase unmittelbar zu Gott applied to the ages of history. Loosely translated, it means all ages are “directly or immediate to God.”

In other words, these ages “differ because each mode of Christian life has had to climb out of, achieve a certain distance from its own embedding in its time… But far from allowing these modes to be neatly ranked, this is the difference which enables them to give something to each other” (745).

Church History as Treasure Box, Not a Map

What is the takeaway for evangelicals today? In contrast to the progressive’s rosy view of the present and untested view of the future, we may often be standing in the middle of the road with our hands outstretched, saying, “Stop and consider!” as the rushing crowd surges forward to a future unable to fulfill their utopian dreams.

But we must also resist the temptation to see a past era as necessarily “better” or “worse” than our own. Church history is a treasure box, not a map. We don’t honor our forefathers and mothers by seeking to return to their times; we honor them by receiving their wisdom and learning from their victories and failures. We retrieve from the past the elements and tools needed for faithfulness today.

There is no “golden age” of Christianity in the past, only an unbroken line of broken sinners saved by the grace of God and empowered to transmit the gospel to the next generation. One day, we’ll be history and our insights will be in the treasure box too. Let’s make sure we’ve given our best.

Golden Age Of The Church – Kingdom Consummation


Discouragement with the state of the modern church and an overly optimistic view of church history have caused some Christians to believe that the church once had a golden age. It’s often suggested that the early church represented this age. We must correct our drifting and return to the values and practices of the early church, the argument goes. They want the church to be more “Apostolic.” They want it to be more communal  (see Acts 2:44). They want it to be free of denominationalism and separation. The natural consequence of this well-intended attitude is a disparagement of the modern church.

In many ways, these critics are right—there are many things that the church needs to heed from our earliest forefathers. The early Christians faithfully employed the divinely ordained means of grace (v. 42), they shared the gospel with deep fervor, they exhibited tremendous generosity, and so forth. We would do well to reform our piety and practice to better conform to Scripture, which reform perhaps was modeled better by previous generations of Christians. This is the heart of the Reformation principle semper reformanda—the church is continually reforming itself to the teaching of Scripture. But to identify the early church (or any other age) as the golden era and to yearn for its exact replication is misguided and dangerous for a number of reasons.

  1. The idea of a golden age discounts the shifts in redemptive history.

I understand the frustration in reading the book of Acts and concluding that the Holy Spirit was more visible in His work in the early church. But the Spirit that came upon those at Pentecost is the same Spirit that indwells us. What’s the difference, then? The primary difference is with regard to methodology, not source. The extraordinary, foundational Apostolic office—with all its accompanying gifts—eventually gave way to a more permanent church structure featuring the simple offices of elder and deacon. (Daryl here. I would say, different application of apostolic ministry) This doesn’t make the church any less “spiritual”; rather, it accounts for the intentional shift from the Apostolic foundation-laying stage to the more permanent ordinary age. If we are to lament anything in the modern church, it should be our susceptibility to neglect those ordinary means of building the church in search of something more extraordinary. In reality, the early church devoted itself to the same things that we should be devoting ourselves to—the sacraments, the Word of God, fellowship, and prayer (Acts 2:42). The Spirit who made the ascended Christ present to them in and through those means is the same Spirit who does so for us today. Grasping for the gifts of the past implies a distrust in the redemptive plan of Christ. To identify the early church as the golden era and to yearn for its exact replication is misguided and dangerous.

  1. The idea of a golden age venerates the early church.

Again, it would be unfair to discount the exemplary characteristics of the early church. It may be equally unfair to overlook their failures while persistently recounting our failures. In many ways, the early church looked just like us. The first Christians dealt with moral failure—sexual immorality (Romans and Corinthians), greed and dishonest gain (Jude), disunity and quarrels (Philippians and James), and laziness (Thessalonians). There were doctrinal failures—legalism (Galatians and Hebrews), false spirituality (Colossians), and pretentious, heartless religion (Ephesians; see Rev. 2:1–7). There were wolves in sheep’s clothing (Matt. 7:15Col. 2:82 Peter 2:1–3) and church officers falling (3 John). Paul had to rebuke his fellow Apostle Peter for abysmal conduct with regard to prejudices (Gal. 2:11–14). Ecclesiastically, there is nothing new under the sun (Eccl. 1:9). Moral and doctrinal failures will permeate the air until Christ’s second advent. If perfection is the criterion for an age to be classified as golden, the early church didn’t qualify any more than ours does.

  1. The idea of a golden age misconstrues the headship of Christ.

We need to be careful that we don’t deny that Christians in certain eras got certain things more right than Christians in other eras. We need even more care to ensure we don’t unintentionally usurp Christ’s authority as sovereign Head of the church. As Head, Christ will complete the work that He has begun (Phil. 1:6). To that end, He prayed to the Father to “keep them in your name, which you have given me” (John 17:11). Those whom the Father has given Christ will be protected—because Jesus’ prayers are efficacious. What about those professing evangelicals who are dropping like flies by rejecting orthodoxy? Such compromises are discouraging, but, as many have noted, the stark contrast between true disciples and false disciples is becoming well defined. The winnowing fork is separating the wheat from the chaff before our eyes (Matt. 3:12). Those who fall away prove themselves to be those for whom Jesus hasn’t prayed (John 17:9) and those who never truly belonged with us (1 John 2:19). But these situations aren’t unique to the modern church. The visible church has always been a mix of true and false believers. For the life of the church between the first and second advents of Christ, there have always been Judases among Peters. The final separation won’t happen until the consummation of the kingdom. That will be the true golden age—the age when the church triumphant will be made up of only those for whom Jesus prayed and the Great Commission will have ceased (Jer. 31:34). This is the eschatological path the church is on.


Comparing the modern church against the early church is like comparing Bill Russell with Michael Jordan. Depending on your perspective, such evaluation either romanticizes what was and disregards what is, or it romanticizes what is and disregards what was. Seeking the peace and purity of the church should involve a healthy evaluation of church history, but it should never romanticize an era at the expense of denigrating the modern church. We only need to reorient our doctrine and practice according to a particular church era inasmuch as they reflect Scripture. We study church history both to know what to do and to know what not to do.

This presupposes there is no golden age of the church, only multiple eras of the church during which the affection of Christ rested on her even in all her mess. On the other hand, the golden age of the church is yet to come. It is true that Christ’s bride doesn’t look like she should, but it’s equally true that she will look exactly the way she should at the wedding of the Lamb. This much He has promised. Therefore, we should be patient with Christ’s bride because we know that she will make it to that final day. Only then will she exchange her rags for the unblemished wedding dress her Husband has prepared for her (Rev. 19:8). That will be golden.

Joachim Of Fiore – A New Order For A new Era



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Back in the 12th century, nearly all doctrine was Augustinian a-millennialism. Then along came a monk who overturned this idea and introduced a startling “new” theory that he had received by “divine illumination”.

This monk was Joachim of Fiore, an Italian, born in 1130. He became a monk, then an abbot of a Cistercian Abbey, and eventually he founded his own order of monks.What Joachim predicted was a new order. New spiritual forms of worship would arise, and there would be no need for church rituals and rites and formalities. Everything would be known and achieved “in the Spirit”.

Joachim saw the Age of the Father as carnal, the Age of the Son as partly carnal and partly spiritual (a soulish age), but the Third Age would be pure spirit; people everywhere would have inner light and wisdom.

At that time, the world would be converted, the perfected Body of Christ would be revealed, and the saints would be given the dominion over the earth. But only those who had been preparing themselves with this new revelation would participate, not all the Christians! This sounds very familiar to anyone versed in Latter-Rain doctrine.

Living In The Overlap

Joachim also believed each age had an overlap when the things of the coming age intruded into the old order. That ties in neatly with the Restoration belief that we are “living in the overlap”. The new-agers also believe in the overlap theory, when the old order dominates, but certain enlightened people begin to wake up to the new order and move on ahead of the rest of mankind. The spiritual pioneers go ahead to prepare the new age. In Restoration terms, this elite company would be “Joseph Company” who go ahead and prepare the way.

What Joachim predicted was a new order. New spiritual forms of worship would arise, and there would be no need for church rituals and rites and formalities. Everything would be known and achieved “in the Spirit”.

The Gnostic Source of Joachim’s Revelations

Joachim received his new vision for the future through deep spiritual meditation, and from the inner revelations given to him during periods of contemplation.

“The mystics claimed to see divine truth through the inner vision of the soul, by reflecting, brooding, and waiting for the light. Joachim (12th century monk) and the school that followed the trail he blazed, exemplified mysticism, believing that the world was growing old and that the time of her change was at hand.”

“The third age would be a new age. This new era would set in, supported by a new monastic society, which would raise life to a new spiritual basis…A new form of life and a new society would spring up. Joachim’s call was not so much Repent, turn back to the old source, but to change and become new, to reach a higher goal. He said: It is fitting that the life be changed, since it is necessary that the state of the world be changed. (Prophetic Faith by L. E. Froom. Volume One, page 689).

What Joachim proposed was basically the same scheme that we have now in the Latter Rain movement. Joachim believed in the Three Ages of mankind. See the chart below outlining his view of history.

  1. From Abraham to John The Baptist was the first age, the Age of the Father, the Old Testament.
  2. From John The Baptist to the Fulness of the Gentiles was the Second age, of the Son, the age of the new Testament.
  3. Joachim proposed a new age, the Age of the Spirit, when the Church would be transformed, and receive the knowledge of all things by direct revelation. After “the fulness” of time, the elect would enter the Consumation of All Things, an Age of the Spirit, an age of spiritual transformation and spiritual revelation of the Word of God.

A Continuity of Thought Throughout the Ages

What possible connection could there be between Joachim of Fiore, 13th century mystic, and the Toronto Blessing in the Church today? The link is the continuity of thought behind the “new thing”, the gnostic revelation throughout all ages. That spirit of wisdom, the serpent in the garden, has been preparing the apostate church for his new thing for centuries.

Once the church as a whole abandoned the literal interpretation of scripture – the literal return of the Jews to their land, the literal antichrist, the literal millennium and so forth – once started interpreting scripture allegorically, they were wide open for deception. Anything goes if you treat the Bible as a book of symbols and metaphors!

Then along came a mystic (Joachim) who planted new thoughts about a coming age of the spirit, and the church fell for it. This new thinking was triumphalistic and hopeful. It pierced the grim every-day boredom of Church life and gave Christians something to hope for, a glorious vision of the future! Christians eagerly believed they could be glorified and perfected and turned into world rulers. This was new and exciting!

Things don’t change. People are the same today. After the War, when people began to give up the literal pre-millennial understanding of prophecy, they left themselves wide open to strange esoteric doctrines. The Latter Rain revival cashed in on that trend. Each time the message is the same: people can become spiritually transformed and rule the world. Satan’s plan has not changed in essence since the beginning. “Ye shall be as God…”

Quaker ‘Inner Light’ Failed Any ‘New Dawn’

George Fox  1624–1691 Quakers, also called Friends, are a historically Christian group whose formal name is the Religious Society of Friends or Friends Church. Members of the various Quaker movements are all generally united by their belief in the ability of each human being to experientially access the light within, or “that of God in every one”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers

Though Quakers were people that lived austere, ‘holy’ lives, Quaker teaching is riddled with error: their final authority is not the Bible, but resides in the individual (the inner light), women are encouraged to be ministers (as they are in Pentecostalism), they believe in the universal brotherhood of all people, there is no creed or confession of faith, they are universalistic as regards redemption, and modern Quakers have become completely liberal in doctrine. https://www.understanding-ministries.com/docs/The%20Origins%20of%20Pentecostalism.pdf

“The first wave of Quaker missioners believed that the Quaker community had been raised up by God to preach a revolutionary gospel and to end the long night of apostasy. The “great people’ that hath come into existence through the preaching of this revolutionary gospel was evidence to them that a new day had dawned in Christian history. They called themselves “the children of the light and children of the day of Christ.”...this dawn did not prove to be the herald of a new era in Christian history, as the first Quakers expected that it would.” George Fox’s Teaching about Christ p.30 https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1954&context=qrt

The Shakers (1770+)

The Shakers are usually seen to be the followers of Ann Lee (1736-1781), the wife of a blacksmith in Manchester, but the movement really started amongst the Radical Quakers.

Becoming a Shaking Quaker at 22, she married at 25 and had four children. After losing all her children in infancy, Lee’s distress was funnelled into religious enthusiasm. She agonised over her sinfulness and resented her marriage, subjecting herself to rigorous penance. As a result of these exercises, in 1770 she was overcome by divine ‘revelation’ and received a new gospel, which was based upon a hatred of sex: human depravity was caused by the sex act. Eventually, she saw herself as the messiah, a second version of Christ and was known as Ann the Word or Mother Ann. This, and other doctrinal heresies accompanied her teaching on the restoration of end time spiritual gifts including tongues and healing, the most serious deviation being the rejection of the inspiration of the Bible.

In 1774, upon ‘divine’ command, she immigrated from England to New York State, near Albany, with 8 followers, and in 1787 her growing followers, many from Baptist churches, were organised into the United Society of Believers in Christ’s Second Appearing, a millennialist, perfectionist sect. As well as basic Quaker beliefs of simplicity, frugal living, equality, honesty and charity, they believed that the source of evil was sex, pride and greed. Salvation was by good conduct. God was a duality of the masculine and feminine, with Lee as the counterpart to Christ, commissioned to complete his work. Christ’s physical resurrection was denied. Celibacy was enforced along with communal property and strict regulation of ethics, including diet. Their worship was a wild and exuberant spontaneity which included the shaking off of sin and vigorous dancing (hence the name ‘Shaker’). Visions, tongues, healings, revelations for guidance, prophecies, signs and other gifts attracted attention, many being convinced by Lee’s end-time restorationist message. One source states that they danced together naked, whilst speaking in tongues, in order to mortify the flesh and learn how to control sexual temptation.

The dancing later became more ritualistic, and tongue speaking was reduced after Lee’s death as Joseph Meacham brought order to the wild worship. Numbers dwindled, but the movement later prospered in the wake of various religious revivals in America, especially in the West, particularly the Cane Ridge Revival.

The Shakers were very evangelistic in their zeal to propagate their false doctrines & practices. Shaker evangelists were involved with the Cane Ridge “Revival,” and brought their manifestations (which they called “signs”) with them and infected the meetings.    https://discernmentministriesinternational.wordpress.com/tag/maria-woodworth-etter/ 

The occult ministry of Rebecca Jackson manifested all the revelation gifts practised by modern Charismatics and modelled by William Branham, including: the word of knowledge, word of wisdom and prophecy. Both claimed to be instructed by spirit beings, not Jesus!

What is more, the Shakers openly practised spiritualism. Messages were regularly received from the dead Mother Ann, and other deceased Shakers, who conversed with the recipients who were called (by themselves) ‘mediums’ or ‘instruments’. Furthermore, they willingly accepted the entrance of indigenous tribal spirits into their bodies (i.e. demonic counterfeits). These people cannot be considered to be Christians in any sense but their contribution to revivalism and the holiness movement is very significant. They were considered to be heretical in their own day, and should be seen so now. In fact, one writer declares that the Shakers were the forerunners of modern spiritualism.

In the late 1800’s, Shaker prophets declared that soon similar manifestations would break forth all over the world. Within 30 years the ‘revival’ at Azusa Street took place.


The New Light Prophets (1742+)

This group operated in New England at the time of Jonathan Edwards under the leadership of James Davenport (1716-1757). Originally a Congregationalist minister, he had gathered a big following in the revival and preached to large crowds in the open air like Whitefield. However, Davenport also led the crowds in singing praise, sometimes fohours. Yet Edwards considered that Davenport was an ‘enthusiast’ who had opened the door to Satan to obstruct true revival. This was because in 1742 Davenport began to hear inner voices, and then became a leader in what became familiar as the New Light Prophets.

This group believed that a ‘second Reformation’ had begun which included the restoration of the supernatural gifts. In time other manifestations occurred as members began to fall to the ground, shake and see visions. These actions were seen as evidence of the Spirit’s power, especially in conversion and Edwards had to write against this notion. Davenport himself went to extremes when he claimed the gift of discernment as the ability to see who was truly elect. Churches were split as he pronounced leaders were not really believers.

A seminary was started which did not use the Bible, in favour of subjective ‘spiritual’ revelation to train prophets. Music was used to enhance the atmosphere of meetings and preaching became theatrical and dramatic as fresh revelations interrupted meetings. Some of his hymns celebrated the lack of self control in God’s service, much like modern charismatic choruses of the Toronto school. In 1743 a bonfire was organised to burn Puritan books. At a second bonfire, led by the ‘spirit’, Davenport began removing his clothes and burning them. When an observer condemned Davenport of having the Devil in him, Davenport came to his senses and accepted the charge. Gradually the movement dissipated as Davenport now declared the work to be evil and sought forgiveness for
corrupt actions.

Davenport was a pattern for so many who followed. His problem began when he implicitly followed subjective impressions rather than the Word of God. He led great worship times, preached powerfully, gathered a large following, worked in the midst of great revival, enchanted great crowds, wrote hymns, started a Bible School, discipled prophets – and yet he later claimed that it was all Satanic, ‘misguided zeal’ provoked by ‘the false spirit’. I have been much led astray by following impulses or impressions … without a text of scripture; and my neglecting also duly to observe the analogy of scripture [the general, unified, doctrinal content of the Bible] … this … corrupted my experiences.

Emanuel Swedenborg 1688–1772

“The New Church…he received a new revelation from Christ in visions he experienced…He predicted in his writings that God would replace the traditional Christian Church…The movement was founded on the belief that God explained the spiritual meaning of the Bible to reveal the truth of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ…He cited divine revelation for his writings, and his followers believe that he witnessed the Last Judgment in the spiritual world with the inauguration of the New Church.”

The doctrines of the New Church review and assess the doctrines of earlier churches…before the New Church can be received, the doctrines of older churches must be exposed and rejected. The New Church is so opposed to the doctrines of the older Christian churches that they cannot coexist…In the New Church, authority is based on divine revelation rather than creeds or church councils.”

Edgar Cayce & Disciples Of Christ 1877-1945

The Christian Church (Disciples Of Christ) is a Mainline Protestant Christian denomination in the United States and Canada. The denomination started with the Restoration Movement during the Second Great Awakening. In 1801, the Cane Ridge Revival in Kentucky planted the seed for a movement in Kentucky and the Ohio River Valley to disassociate from denominationalism

Barton Stone from the ‘Cane Ridge Revival’ and Thomas Cambell from western Pennsylvania and Virginia formed the Christian Church (Disciples Of Christ), the ‘Cane Ridge Revival’ being influenced by the occult practices of the Shakers. Alexander Campbell’s millennialism was more optimistic than Stone’s. He had more confidence in the potential for human progress and believed that Christians could unite to transform the world and initiate a millennial age. Both saw restoring apostolic Christianity as a means of hastening the millennium.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restoration_Movement

Shocking detailed coverage of ‘Cane Ridge Revival’ here, p.22-24 https://www.understanding-ministries.com/docs/The%20Origins%20of%20Pentecostalism.pdf

Edgar Cayce Throughout his life, Cayce was drawn to church as a member of the Disciples of Christ. He read the Bible once a year every year, taught at Sunday school, and recruited missionaries. He said he could see auras around people, spoke to angels, and heard voices of departed relatives. In his early years, he agonized over whether these psychic abilities were spiritually delivered from the highest source.

“Almost every day, several times a day Edgar would induce himself into an out-of-body experience and reveal profound information on various subjects such as human origins, dreams, meditation, prayer, religion, afterlife realms, consciousness, the soul and spirit, and the Book of Revelation, to name a few. But it was the information that revealed about the future which he is probably most known for. He provided information about the history of humanity from the very beginning to a time in the future when humans will evolve into beings with supernatural powers. He described a new era of enlightenment and peace when divinity within humans would be manifested on the earth.”

The Disciples Of Christ church was also where Maria Woodworth Etter had a ‘spiritual encounter.’

Jehovah Witnesses

One of the most misleading statements in watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather…falsely predicted 1914 to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise.

“the deliverance of the saints must take place some time before 1914 is manifest”
“the Day of Vengeance … will end in October, 1914”
“the great “time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation,” will reach its culmination”
“we present proofs that the setting up of the Kingdom of God is already begun”
“we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished near the end of A.D.1914.”

Previous Claims Of Impending Charism..Global Revival


Mid to late 19th century: The Holiness Movement There were multiple examples of revivalism, usually centred in some leader. Most famous was Maria Woodworth-Etter [1844-1924] whose occult behaviour was so extreme that St Louis doctors tried to section her as insane in 1890. She was able to make people fall over while she often went into trances, which in some cases allegedly lasted for days, then she would continue preaching. Her doctrine was false and her meetings aberrant; any good teaching was copied from others like WE Boardman [1810-1886]19. The press labelled her as ‘The Voodoo Priestess’. After 1885 her meetings become constant front-page news and attracted great scandal, including being arrested for obtaining money under false pretences. She was so ecumenical that she preached at Mormon churches. The rise of preachers like Woodworth-Etter gave rise to hopes of a coming global revival, which was energised by the 1904 Welsh Revival, but all these hopes did was to incubate Pentecostalism.

1901: The Topeka Revival under Charles Parham
When Agnes Ozman began to speak in tongues (thought to be Chinese) the doctrine was developed that missionaries would be able to evangelise nations without learning the languages. Parham [1873-1929] taught that a global revival was imminent when the church would be fully restored. The missionary doctrine was quickly abandoned when it failed overseas (firstly in India). Neither did the promised revival occur. In fact, Parham actually condemned the Azusa Street revival five years later as being demonic. However, Parham is regarded as the founding pioneer of the Pentecostal churches.

1906-1913: Azusa Street revival
Again it was expected that this was a precursor to a worldwide revival and a restoration of the church to be like the apostolic church. While many Pentecostal missionaries went out, the global revival did not occur and in Los Angeles the original church splintered into opposing factions. In fact this was no revival at all but hysteria and emotionalism. There was no control over wild behaviour that even attracted witches and mediums who were left in the meeting to perform their occult behaviour. *(Daryl here. The AOG did address these issues in the following years.) Mid-20th century

Pentecostal revivalists Revivalist type meetings and a focus upon healing were emphasised by multiple Pentecostal leaders: John Lake [1870-1935], Kathryn Kuhlman [1907-1976], Aimee Semple McPherson [1890-1944], Oral Roberts [1918-2009] and many more. To many Pentecostalists, these were a precursor to a coming worldwide Pentecostal revival that would restore the church and usher in the millennium.

1948: Latter Rain This began in an emotional, mystical revival in North Battleford, Canada. It spawned multiple heresies (as mentioned in this paper) and helped propel the 50s healing revivals. It emphasised a coming global revival that would restore the church and initiate new apostles and prophets. The actual revival died down after the Assemblies of God outlawed the movement for heresy; however, its influence was to re-emerge later in the Charismatic Movement and particularly in UK Restorationism. Paul Cain was a part of this movement and brought its heresies into modern Charismatic churches, aided by his associations with John Wimber, RT Kendall and Jack Deere. 1950s Healing Revival E.g. AA Allen [1911-1970]; William Branham [1909-1965], Jack Coe [1918-1956]. William Edwin Boardman a key ‘Higher Life’ teacher, published ‘The Higher Christian Life’ in 1858.

Branham was a major heretic and occultist who even denied the Trinity. A book could be written about his errors. Branham is the darling of the current Charismatic revivalists. Pentecostals in general accepted the Healing Revival as a precursor to global revival. In fact it was filled with fraud, sinful leaders and emotional excitement. Even Hollywood made a film about this (‘Elmer Gantry’).

1960s Charismatic Movement This re-appearance of Pentecostalism in evangelical churches was considered to be the precursor of a global revival. The baptism in the Spirit would unite all churches and change the world. In fact, it was the opening of occultism, mysticism and heresies into evangelical churches. Nothing improved over the decades and the UK church dwindled massively.

*>Daryl here. I will address the “occultism, mysticism and heresies” introduced, at a later date.

1970’s Restoration Movement. This time it was the ministries of apostles and prophets and a reconstructed church on authoritarian lines that was promised to be the harbinger of a global revival to bring in a truly apostolic world wide church. Very soon there was a worldwide scandal about authoritarian ‘heavy shepherding’ that broke up many groups and ruined some ministries. The movement reconstituted itself into several Charismatic denominations, which became exactly like the thing they originally rebelled against (formal, hierarchical, authoritarian, churches). Numbers diminished even more in the UK churches.

1980’s Signs and Wonders Movement of John Wimber The same process; this time based upon healings and miracles. 1990s Toronto Blessing, Pensacola etc. The same process; this time based upon mysticism and exotic behaviour.

Late 2000’s Lakeland Revival
This 2008 aberration was led by the false prophet Todd Bentley whose ministry was filled with heresy, aberrations and violent behaviour. It dissipated when he was soon caught in fornication that led to divorce; but not before there was speculation that this was the beginning of a worldwide end-time revival. This time millions were able to tune into meetings through the Internet.

We could actually continue extending this list backwards over many centuries. Every few years or few decades someone spawns a heretical movement claiming to be the precursor of a global revival. For example in the early-mid-19th century the study of prophetics, that eventually led to the development of Dispensationalism, spawned theories of a global revival in a restored church. The scandalous church that Edward Irving belonged to in London is but one example. As with later versions, this just led to an authoritarian church cult led by apostles. Instead of learning from history, most Christians just fall for the new version of lies; in the same way that the world falls for the lies that push them into war after war, never learning from history.

It seems almost every generation in modern history has had those who embraced ‘new era’ ideology, they being the catalyst. Part 2 will look at ‘new age’ ‘new era’ philosophy and current ‘christian’ ‘new era’ ‘prophetic’ rhetoric.